Sanchez=Great QB?

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  1. TheSHRIKE81

    TheSHRIKE81 Member

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    Ha! I think Edwards is gonna be great for the team and I assume if he plays well they're gonna try to keep him with the Jets next year.
     
  2. ShAuN JoHN 9294

    ShAuN JoHN 9294 New Member

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    Mark Sanchez will NEVER come CLOSE to being as good as Peyton Manning....Ever

    His potential is a top 10 QB maybe top 5 once Peyton and Brady are done. He will NOT be at worst the 2nd best QB in this upcoming decade. Be realistic
     
  3. tpjets62

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    I was looking at the #s myself ...

    Flacco Yrds 1013
    Sanchez Yrds 1035

    Interesting and as you stated, a much better comparison....but what does it mean? We wont find out for at least another year or two. We can only hope we end up with a similar product.
     
  4. ShAuN JoHN 9294

    ShAuN JoHN 9294 New Member

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    By the numbers yes they are a good comparison but Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez skill sets are totally different. Joe Flacco is a stand tall, all 6'6" of him, pocket QB with a cannon for a arm who is not the most accurate QB. Sanchez is a below avg sized mobile QB with good arm strength who is a very accurate QB.

    Than again as long as we stop comparing Dirty to Peyton Manning whatever...
     
  5. 94Abraham

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    Very accurate based on what? I partially agree. He hits opposing defensive backs in stride with the best of them.
     
  6. ShAuN JoHN 9294

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    Maybe very accurate was too much but he is accurate. Hes not Jarmarcus Russell lol.
     
  7. ace_o_spades

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    1 game is an illusion, maybe even 2. But he played 4 solid games (he made several clutch throws against Miami, fuck what the box score says)

    It's just as unrealistic to say he won't be that good
     
  8. Br4d

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    Manning was playing with several future hall of famers in 1998. He had Marshall Faulk, already a great back, lined up with him in the backfield as a perfect (literally perfect) safety valve to throw too on pressure plays and he had Marvin Harrison at WR. He had Tarik Glenn at LT watching his backside.

    The idea that Manning was on a talentless squad aside from himself is just silly on the face of it.

    Sanchez is not in Manning's class as a QB but to suggest that Manning walked to school 11 miles in the snow every morning barefoot his rookie season is silly.

    You think Sanchez wouldn't be doing better right now if he had Marvin Harrison running routes down the field and a running back capable of catching 86 passes, even when the other team was doubling him? Sanchez WAS doing better when he had his version of Harrison (Jerrico Cotchery) healthy and on the field as an option. A lot of what went wrong on Sunday can be attributed to Cotchery not playing. It's like Schotty just forgot that was a fact.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The Colts were 3-13 the year before and the year Manning was drafted. While he had talent around him there was certainly not enough. I doubt he had as much talent as this Jets team does.

    Regardless, the argument of the OP is extremely weak.
     
  10. MadBacker Prime

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    The defense sucked!!

    Peyton had much more talent on offense, and at that time that had they largest line in the league. So they were pretty good too.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I honestly do not remember the Colts of the year Manning was drafted. I made my statement based on their record the year before and his rookie year. So I'm willing to concede that I'm wrong about the offense he had being better than the Jets offense.

    That doesn't change the fact that saying player x sucked his rookie year and is great now. Player y is sucking his rookie year so he'll be great. That's awful logic. Not to mention, the only comparison between the players was their stats and the stats do not even come close to each other.
     
  12. Br4d

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    Manning had a better setup on offense in terms of the players around him than Sanchez does. He was playing with a two-time MVP to come sitting right next to him in the backfield.

    If you think Sanchez has it easy with the personnel around him you're not looking at that personnel particularly well. The only person who is on the field with Sanchez right now who is clearly better than what Manning had is Mangold.
     
  13. ShAuN JoHN 9294

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    Technically that's correct because Mark Sanchez might be the best QB ever for all we know. At the same time the chances of him being Peyton Manning is slim to none that's all I'm saying. Look at how many QBs have been drafted or undrafted QBs signed from 1998 til now. How many have ever reached his level of play? The man from New England. Maybe Drew Brees as well. Thats about it.

    Those type of expectations in my opinion are unrealistic. If it happens god bless it but I wouldn't bet my paycheck on fridays he will become as good as Peyton Manning.
     
  14. Br4d

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    Peyton Manning is one of the top 5 QB's of all time. The odds are pretty good he'll be top 3 before he's done. Anybody who is comparing Sanchez to Manning is 99.9% likely to be disappointed in the end.

    Sanchez could turn out to be a great QB and never get within 10% of Peyton Manning. In fact if he turns out great that's the likely scenario.
     
  15. HOI

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    IMO they are asking too much of Sanchez. For christs sakes he's only played in 6 NFL games!! In Big Ben's rookie year he was throwing like 15-20 passes a game MAX!! The game should be placed on Sanchez shoulders only in an absolute emergency!! This team is built to run the football, if we cant get that done then, or stick with it when its working (SCHOTTY!!!), then we've got more problems than our rookie QB. Shit...was Flacco asked to do this much last year? Everyone needs to chill the fuck out with the comparisons and at least let this kid play 10 god damn games before we start shitting ourselves.
     
  16. 101GangGreen101

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    Sanchez doesn't even remind me of Peyton Manning where are all these comparisons coming from, honestly If I had to pick a QB from the past, it would be Steve Young but right-handed, both decent arm strength, GREAT mobility and purely accurate but he's got a fucking long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath, Young's awareness on the field was amazing, he could make any throw and read, Sanchez's next step in his development has to be that, he has to stop overlooking recievers, but there wasn't much out there last weekend, I can't blame him for trying to strike a needle to B.E.

    I loved watched Steve Young growing up, I see a lot of his game in Sanchez, maybe sometime in the offseason he can work with this great QB that would be nice
     
  17. ShAuN JoHN 9294

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    Great point. Not only would he throw 15-20 times a game but for the first 2 years on a majority of plays he was only allowed to look at half the field and if he didn't like what he saw pass to the check down or throw it away. This limited his mistakes and taught him how to go through his progressions properly. Right now Sanchez has started a total of a whopping 22 games in both college and the NFL. Asking him to read an entire field with his level of experience(or lack of) might be overloading him a bit.
     
  18. HOI

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    A lot of it IMO is Schottys ego. Trying to show how great he is a an OC. The changes in formation and those retarded as gadget plays we run for 2 yard gains. Take in point...Leon runs it all the way down the field against the Bills then when we get close to the endzone we decide to run out of the Seminole for shit gain.

    Schotty wants to displays "his" offense not some diluted version of it for a rookie. Well...his ego is fucking us right now.
     
  19. Br4d

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    Steve Young threw 11 TD's and 21 INT's between his first two seasons with the Bucs. He was 24 and 25 years old during those seasons.

    You just can't compare where he was at when he finally landed in the NFL with where Sanchez is now. The two just do not equate at all. Young, BTW, is another guy who you can't compare Sanchez to because he stepped into a brilliantly conceived offensive system and then executed it as well as it could be done in SF.

    Sanchez is playing in whatever it is that Schotty is running at the moment, which is nowhere near what Bill Walsh had going in SF.
     
  20. ShAuN JoHN 9294

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    My brother keeps saying Sanchez looks like ....gulp...Tony Romo. If this guy turns into Tony Homo he is an epic failure. Now of course I go against that claim because I feel he will be a top 10 QB in this league.
     

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