The Head Coaches breaks down the Sanchez tape.

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  1. JetMonkey

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    I wasn't clear enough in my original post. I wasn't referring to their talent, I was referring to their chemistry. Sanchez and Edwards will have plenty of opportunities to work on their communication to one another. I know with Sanchez's work ethic and physical tools (at least from what I've seen), he can get it done.
     
  2. DbaJets

    DbaJets New Member

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    It's all marketing folks. YOu expect them to explain how one of their marketable young stars, who also happens to be a hispanic, and in the #1 city in the US, is a complete piece of shit and a waste of fans' time?
     
  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Now that's an over the top analysis, we don't know what he is yet, we do know that it's too early to put the game in his hands to win.
     
  4. nyjcanada

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    who cares what the critics say if we're winning games? we should run the ball 99% of the time when you have 300 yards rushing in OT, in windy conditions no less.
     
  5. Jtuds

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    You think we should do a patch job on offense and never let Sanchez work through the tough times? That's a great way to let the player become a franchise QB.

    Ever heard of Steve young?

    Ever heard of John Elway?

    How about Vinny Testaverde?

    Troy Aikman maybe?

    Putting Kellen Clemens in so that Mark's learning curve is complete some time next season is a great idea.
     
  6. bigmehl

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    That's certiainly the safe approach - or so it seems. The Jets had over 300 yards rushing but a large part of those came on big runs - otherwise their average rush/attempt was average at best. So suppose we ran the ball and went 3 and out and punted into the wind and gave the Bills a very short field .
    Everyone today would be killing Rex/Shotty for being too conserative.

    Bottom line we can't have it both ways. I'd rather win/lose by playing agressively on both sides of the ball. I've seen too much of the ultra conserative gameplans from Herm/Mangini to know that scared ball is losing ball.

    The blame for this game goes to the offense (Sanchez) for turning the ball over and for comittiong too many penalties.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    that only means something in the NY area.

    they are going to sugar coat anything on a NFLN due to marketing.
     
  8. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Ever hear of Brady Quinn? Joey Harrington? David Carr? Matt Lienart? Vince Young? For every success story about a young QB, there's always a nightmare on Elm street to balance it out.

    If this kid pysche is so fragile that he can't be benched, then we are truly in trouble at the QB position. Hell, somebody had better alert the media not to be too hard on him. Send the fans a memo to stop booing him too while you're at it. This is NY, not SoCal. The Kid had better get used to high expectations or he won't make it here.

    Trial by fire means you're sacrificing the 2009 season. With Jenkins out, that very well could be the case now. I'm curious to see how he plays in the snow or even in near or below zero wind chills. He's never experienced that in his entire life let alone on a playing field.
     
  9. Scikotic

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    The problem with Sanchez is that he has no chemistry with Edwards or Clowney. It's no surprise that Cotchery is his go to guy, and Stuckey he also had chemistry with. No having either on of them, in a very wind and moist weathered game, was a recipe for disaster. That and his stat line makes it look much worse then it really is....
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    How did they ruin Garcia and warner? Those guys were nobodies before they got their hands on them and the only highly rated prospect of that group you mentioned was Harrington.
     
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  11. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Warner may well go to the HOF because of the O Martz let him run.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I agree, I think warner is now going to be a HOfer. I know he's had amazing offensive talent around him in SL and Ari but he took 2 awful franchises to the SB, has a SB MVP, regular MVP, 3 SB trips. I think he's going to make it and Martz got him started just as Mariucci got Garcia started to a very good career.
     
  13. keypusher

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    Young was lousy for two years at Tampa Bay, then backed up Montana for years. He started paying dividends when he was 30. Elway was benched his rookie year. Testaverde was horrible for years. If Sanchez is going to have a Testaverde trajectory (i.e., finally make the Pro Bowl his tenth season) Rex Ryan might as well blow his brains out right now. Aikman (like P. Manning) was on a horrible team his rookie year. There was no reason not to play him.

    It might be a good idea to keep Sanchez in, but Young, Elway, and Testaverde aren't evidence in support of the idea. Aikman, maybe. But suppose he had sat his rookie year? What kind of career would he have had? There is no telling. But I'd guess it would be about the same.
     
  14. MadBacker Prime

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    Sanchez good.

    I like Jets.

    No bench Sanchez.

    Jets team offense, good.



    Everyone get it???
     
  15. nyjcanada

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    to each his own i guess, but if sanchez had 4 picks and we had 300 yards , regardless of the large runs, i wouldn't be pissed if we went 3 and out in OT just on running plays.
     
  16. abyzmul

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    What do Brady Quinn, Joey Harrington, Matt Leinart, and Vince Young have in common? They were all given early votes of confidence and then janked from the starter job without being able to work through their mistakes because the team wanted to 'win now'.

    That philosophy almost worked for the Cardinals and Titans, but we don't have any Super Bowl veteran QBs on the roster like Collins or Warner to let the kid 'learn' on the sideline. Face it, this team is still learning on defense, and we're getting injuries in high frequency - the chances of this team winning deep into the postseason are pretty slim..

    It's better to let the rookie take his lumps at this point in the game.
     
  17. nyjcanada

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    i think the speculation that he was going to be pulled was completely overblown. He's had 2 really bad games, and the others he has done very well. It was never going to happen, he'll start the rest of the way.
     
  18. Cman69

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    Sadly you're right on this Byz. We have Kellen Clemens behind Mark Sanchez. That's alot like having Vince Young backing up Jamarcus Russell. Because of where we're are in QB depth, that is to say NONE, I can understand why the 2009 Jets have no choice but to ride Sanchez to the end no matter where that may be. I still don't think it would hurt Sanchez to take a game off and get his head on straight. I would like to think his ego and pysche is stronger than that. If it ain't, he won't make it here Byz..

    Seems like we're right back to where we started before the season began doesn't it...
     
  19. MadBacker Prime

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    No it doesn't.

    After 1 game surprisingly I'm not throwing in the towel on him. I know it's tough to fathom, but there are 10 games left.
     
  20. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Umm, what's hard to fathom is that its 6 pro games and I think 21 games into Sanchez's QB career counting college. Getting benched didn't hurt Elway's career and I would like to think our Franchise Qb has a career even remotely as successful.

    I'm not at all convinced that benching Sanchez for a game will turn this kid into pineapple jello. It just might be the wakeup call the kid needs.

    If we're writing off 2009 as prepschool for Sanchez, then they shouldn't bother with another trade this season. What would be the point? Why not showcase Clemens since its not like there aren't any older pro QB's out there on the unemployment line either. Lord knows we could use the extra DP.

    I'm not saying Sanchez is a bust. I'm saying the kid probably could use a game off to gather himself.
     
    #40 Cman69, Oct 20, 2009
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