That is a fair point. The only other one I can think of is what if his pass blocking is suspect? They may be waiting until they are more comfortable with his work in that area.
The holes are going to begin opening up with the addition of Edwards. That being said, Cotchery needs to play for this to be effective. Keep Greene fresh for the second half of the season. If he plays now, he's just going to get pounded on (ex. TJ). He'll get his shot. My money is on after the bye week.
greene has had 7 carries thomas jones has had an amazing career including an awesome season last year. Just because green looked good on a few carries doesnt mean hes curtis martin. Let TJ and LW carry the ball seeing as how they have proven themselves. Theres a reason Greene isnt playing much whether its injury or whatever. Let Rex decide.
Maybe greene can learn not to get hurt like TJ who has proven to be one of the msot durable runningbacks in all of football
No disrespect to anyone, but the Jets only have 1 pro bowl running back. TJ went to the pro bowl as a running back, Leon went as a kick returner. I love Leon in the role he plays, and TJ used to be that pounding the hole type back, which was his bread and butter the last few seasons. However, he just dances in the back and gains 2 yards a carry, why not give SG a shot. He has looked good in the limited opportunities he has been given.
Yeah, only after TJ was labeled as injury-prone for the first 2 seasons of his career. I have a feeling that part of TJ's ability to stay healthy has something to do with his unwillingness to lower his shoulder into defenders and drive for yards on most of his carries. He takes what is given to him and not much more, unless he's on the goal line or his job is in jeopardy. See: the Bears' Super Bowl run after they drafted Cedric Benson. See also: Right after Shonn Greene's carries against New Orleans.
Agree with most of this. Think you can add a few other things besides the OL. Teams have been putting 8-9 guys in the box because of no up field threat. With the addition of Edwards, and Clowney showing deep threat skill, once Cotchery comes back teams won?t able to do that. Also Greene had no experience at pass blocking, or receiving when he was at Iowa. When you have a rookie QB who is having ball protection problems the Jets are pretty reluctant to put Greene in. Couple that with the fact that this will be the last year Jones is with the Jets. They don?t care if they burn him out. They are going to get their money?s worth. With that said when Greene comes in you can just see that he is quicker to the hole, and more decisive then TJ ever was. I think his time will be coming very soon. Maybe this week.
My only problem with the argument about Greene's pass blocking is that you can insert him into obvious rushing down easily. I don't think they've really given Sanchez the freedom to check out of rushing downs when the box is stacked because we still end up running into a wall of men when they are stacking the box and those audibles into passing plays would be the main reason that Greene would not be on the field. As far as this being TJ's last season with the Jets, he is sure running like he knows it. It's kind of a self-defeating scenario. He wants to keep his carries, so he runs like mad after Greene comes in, but he doesn't want to get hurt, so that's the only time he runs like mad.
Im not saying Greene will never be good im saying he needs to learn how to be an NFL RB. If you have THomas Jones for the year why not use him thats why your paying him so much. If we use TJ now early in the season (yes its still early even though I know alot of people feel our season ended in miami) we know we still have him at the end and itd be nice to have Greene too. Greene has had 7 carries and already "tweaked" his ankle. So maybe itd be nice for him to watch how a pro bowl RB from the sidelines instead of a body cast in week 6.
If Greene wants to learn how to dance and hop backwards for a loss when he should be charging toward the first down marker, he's getting the education of a lifetime.
Just throw your RB down the river because he has had a few bad games even though he in the past has been great. And yes believe it or not an experienced veteran jones can teach mr. glass a few things.
I'd tie some rocks to him before I threw him in the river, but he goes down so easily that it would be a waste of rocks.
He has had 2-3 good years, the rest have been mediocre or just plain bad. TJ needs to step it up or his carries will start dwindling as the season progresses. He has proved that he can do it, but he's not showing in this year on a every down basis
Im not happy with the way hes playing but he deserves a full season and im sure towards the end he will be bringing it. Football players get banged up whether they are on the IR or not so durability is important.
Why do you keep responding to him? You can't possibly have much ass left waiting to be handed to you.
maybe he isnt as good as the guys in front of him? maybe he doesnt understand the blocking schemes? there are lots of reasons but the fact that so many fans want him to be amazing doesnt make it so. i am sure if rex felt he was ready to play and play well that he would be playing. you know kinda like he did with that other kid they drafted this year.
They aren't the same scenario - we didn't have 2 other previous quality QBs to give Sanchez time to learn. But if we did have at least one servicable QB and started him through this portion of the season, and he shit the bed this far into it, you can bet your ass that Sanchez would be under center quicker than green grass through a goose. I don't think he's amazing. What I think he is, is a rookie with strong legs that hits the hole quickly and gains yardage without wasting much time in the backfield. That's what he did in college, and that's what he has done so far in limited carries. I don't think he's Jerome Bettis. I think he's a player that could help this team overcome 8 in the box until they start really having to respect Sanchez in the film room. BTW, I doubt the number of carries that Shonn Greene gets is something that Rex Ryan does much thinking about. He is entirely interested in the defense, and has admitted that he lays off the offense. This is something that Schotty is responsible for. The same Schotty that refused to install plays for Leon when LW was breaking off 20 YPC in 2008. The same Schotty that was calling 40+ pass plays for a 40 year old QB with a bum throwing arm. Brian Schottenheimer's historic decision-making is hardly immune to criticism.
Greene got a few carries in a preseason game, and got hurt. Then he got a few carries in a regular season game, and got hurt again. Both times he played was in garbage time. His abilty to pick up a blitz is still in question. Yet people clamor for him. Jones is proven. No, I don't like his hesitant running style either, but when the line blocks, he can be effective, and most importantly almost NEVER fumbles. He can carry the ball 20 times and not get hurt. I don't think the RB position is ALL that easy to learn. Having 2 rooks in the backfield is a recipe for failure. Jones has never "looked good". What the CS likes is that he is a reliable veteran. He can block, catch and run without turning the ball over. Sanchez can drop back and have some confidence that Jones is around to help protect him. Jones will "look" a lot better against the Bills this week. The O line will look better too.... unless the Jets are afraid to throw. If the Jets refuse to throw in the bad weather, the Bills will have 9 in the box. I think Greene has a future, but the future is not here just yet.
