Typical Raiders News.

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  1. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    ^ So you spend a #7 draft pick and #7 money to stretch the field? Especially when you already have the speedy Chaz Schilens (6'4, 4.38) wHo Can dO tHaT?

    Seems like a wasted pick. I mean, Jonathan Carter did that for the Jets in like '02/'03, and I don't think he's even in the league anymore.
     
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  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    ^ out of the league in 04
     
  3. fr0zensm0ke

    fr0zensm0ke Member

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    Bullets are useless if the guy shooting can't aim... when he over-throws with that epic godly massive arm Revis (or the cb of whatever team the Raiders happen to be getting owned by) will be there for the pick...
     
  4. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Didn't i explain it pretty well in my last post. I would advise you to reread it again.

    Adding some more thoughts.
    There is a hugh diffrence between 4.38 and sub 4.3. Not to mention how fast DHb is in his first 10 yards. Also you have to take into consideration Raiders want to pound the football. You have 6'4 225 Chaz Schilens and 6'2 210 DHB. and put D revis 5'11 204 and Lito shepphard 5'10 194 on them. Thats a tough matchup for the Jets cb, even in the running game. As they are giving up alot of size and pounds.
    See when you have two big Wr with blazing speed. You can reverse their roles. One can be the deep threat and the other intermediate route runner. you just never know on any given play.

    Again l shepphard 5'10 194 on chaz Scilens 6'4 225 Thats six inch height advantage and when you throw in the fact that schilens has a 43 ' vertical. That only makes it that much more a mismatch. You can give him help with rhodes. But now both safeties are out of the picture and raiders can go where they want to go zach miller down the seam or to D mcfadden. Zach miller and Mcfadden versus your Lbs is a huigh mismatch you can't win.



    bTW Jonathan carfter was 6' 183 pounds. Giants sinorice moss was 5'8 185 There is abig diffrence when a guy 6'2 210 and 6'4 225 with that kind of speed. Why Average CB 5'11 . Your WR has three inch height advantage and five inch height advantage on the CB ,you have to like the odds your Wr going to come down with the deep ball over the shorter Cb See Plaxixo burress who not anywhere as fast as that, but who uses his height 6'5 to his advantage big time. Those 185 pounds guys are easier to knock off their route than a 210 pounder and a 225 pounder. (destroy the timing of the play)
     
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  5. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Some passes Jamarcus Russell has to work on (40 + deep ball and short touch passes) but some he throws as well as anyone. That seam pass 15-30 yards he can throw with his eyes close. Extremely accurate. You play a zone defennse and it simple pitch and catch for Russell. Throws too darn fast for defender to break on the ball.
     
  6. NJrocket24

    NJrocket24 Well-Known Member

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    He has the fastest arm in history and no other qb has been able to throw bullets in the 15 30 yd range like him. he's a one in a million, generational talent. We may never see a qb bullet a quick slant again.


    By the way, that quote you used, illustrates how much the raiders suck. You played out of your heads and we did all we could to give you the game, thus making you asinine predictions come through and yet, we were only behind 1 score with time left. We play the worst game I've seen in a couple years and yet, the raiders just barley won on a 60+ yd FG. Think about it. I'll come back in 3 days when it sinks into that thick head of yours.
     
  7. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Lets see Raiders WR corps was hanging by a thread(really banged up unit), they only had one healthy RB(M Bush) they started two of the worst OTS , and they didn't have their best pass rusher(D Burgess) for the game. Not good for jets.

    This isn't going to change 1,. Jets Wr couldn't get any seperation from Raiders cb's 2 Raiders special team unit way better than the Jets 3. Jets oline can't protect their Qb against Raider pass rush 4. Jets Lbs versus Raiders TE zach miller and D Mcfadden is a mismatch Jets can't handle.

    T6his is what will change
    Jets will not be able to run on the Raiders. This game will not be close and raiders should win in a laugher.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, I really get nothing out of your posts anymore.
     
  9. rmagedon

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    Clipping from Rotoworld.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFl&id=4154

    Article from NFL.com

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d810aa4d4&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

    Things are looking pretty shitty at the Black Hole.

    Original Jeaux formula:
    DHB sub 4.3-40 stretches defenses + Russell's big arm = Championship.

    New formula:
    DHB's questionable hands + Russell's inaccuracy with the deep ball = (The Drafting of DHB worthless + Continued failure + another 4 win season) x Laughing stock of the NFL.
     
  10. MBGreen

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    post of the day....well done. [​IMG]

    I bet there's a massive mushroom cloud kissing the sky over Jeaux's house as we speak.
     
  11. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    He sounds eerily like Vince Young, minus the ability to run. You can't just show up in the NFL, you have to put the time in. Much like Pat Williams said to Tavaris Jackson, who I would take over both Russell and Young at this point.
     
  12. rmagedon

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    I guarantee this...once Russell leaves the Raiders...he will become a decent to good QB in this league. Better even than Young and Jackson.

    His face on Draft Day told me everything I needed to know. He wasn't ecstatic to be drafted by the Raiders, and I don't blame him. DHB is, but, you can pretty much assume why...

    7th overall pick monies >>> 15th-32nd overall pick monies.
     
  13. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    What about if you want a Top 5 Defense, like the Jets currently have. Because he has started the past 2 games....
     
  14. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    Boy the Raiders sure dominated the Giants..I almost thought the Giants would have forfeited.
     
  15. jets2884

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    lmao haha and raider joe is still M.I.A.
     
  16. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    He'll be MIA all season now.
     
  17. WW85

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    Not surprising.....almost 3 weeks and counting.

    Hey Joe thinks JM is better than Eli......see signature.
     
  18. Killeri9590

    Killeri9590 Banned

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    Isn't this his earliest disappearance yet?
     
  19. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    This is why he should be banned, but not until the Offseason.

    The Offseason is his favorite time to post; if you take that away - unless he agrees to post during the season when Oakland sucks - it will ensure that he doesn't disappear and dodge eating crow like he's doing now, like he does every single year.

    C'mon, this is simple behavior modification via punishment.
     
  20. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    Fantastic article about how dysfunctional the Raiders are.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-hansonspeaks101009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    WALNUT CREEK, Calif. – When Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable told his assistants after a sloppy Aug. 4 training-camp practice that he planned to meet privately that night with the team’s defensive backs, Randy Hanson was sure how things would play out.

    “You know what’s gonna happen there,” Hanson, a defensive assistant who had worked closely with the team’s secondary, predicted to a small group of fellow staff members. “Tom’s gonna come out of the meeting and say I’m the problem, that I’m the one confusing them and blame it all on me.”

    Hanson was right: Later that night, Cable informed him that the Raiders’ cornerbacks and safeties had pegged him as “the problem,” exacerbating the tension that Hanson says had been festering between the two coaches since January, when Hanson was hired by owner Al Davis before Cable had been offered a permanent head-coaching role.

    What Hanson says he never saw coming was an alleged violent attack by Cable the following morning that left him with a fractured jaw and a polluted relationship with the franchise he has loved since childhood.

    “From my blindside, Tom Cable threw me from my chair and into a piece of furniture that a lamp sat upon,” Hanson told Yahoo! Sports Friday during an extensive interview at a Bay Area restaurant. “He was screaming, ‘I’ll f——- kill you! I’ll f——- kill you!’ And I have no reason to believe he wouldn’t have killed me if they hadn’t pulled him away.

    “If my head would’ve hit a different way, I might be dead right now.”

    In his first public comments since the Aug. 5 incident that took place in a meeting room at the Marriott-Napa Valley, Hanson repeated the version of events that he gave to a Napa Police Department detective late last month. According to a source close to the investigation, three witnesses – Raiders defensive coordinator John Marshall, defensive backs coach Lionel Washington and assistant defensive backs coach Willie Brown – also provided statements to police investigators which corroborated Hanson’s account of the incident.

    The two-month investigation is now under review by Napa County district attorney Gary Lieberstein, who could decide to file felony assault charges against Cable. Hanson’s San Francisco-based attorney, John McGuinn, told AOL FanHouse last week that “this really is a textbook case of felony assault.” Cable, who has reportedly retained a criminal defense attorney, could be seeking a plea deal that might allow him to avoid jail time.

    Cable may also face discipline under the NFL’s personal conduct policy. According to Greg Aiello, the league’s senior vice president of public relations, commissioner Roger Goodell did not meet with Cable this weekend during the team’s visit to New Jersey – the 1-3 Raiders face the New York Giants on Sunday – and no meeting is currently planned. However, Goodell acknowledged earlier during the week that the league is “closely monitoring the case.”

    The Raiders did not respond to requests Saturday by Yahoo! Sports to speak with Davis, Cable and Marshall, and separate phone calls to Washington and Brown were not returned. Reached Saturday night by phone, Marshall confirmed he had been interviewed by a Napa Police officer and said, “I can’t talk about any of this.”

    Cable has previously denied attacking Hanson, claiming in an Aug. 18 interview following a training-camp practice that “nothing happened” and later insisting that “when the facts come out, everything will be fine.”

    Hanson, 41, who is still getting paid by the Raiders, says he never wanted the incident to be publicized and sent a letter to the organization saying he would accept a reassignment of duties to avoid being a distraction to the team. A fervent Raiders fan since his days growing up in western Washington’s Skagit Valley, Hanson said he still roots for the team – he showed up for Friday’s interview wearing a thick, black shirt with a silver “Raiders” logo.

    Though it has been suggested that Hanson was a snitch for Davis who reported to the owner about the behavior of his fellow coaches, he adamantly denied that depiction. However, Hanson conceded that Cable “might have been paranoid about my relationship with Mr. Davis because I was hired by him.”

    Known for his intense work ethic and aptitude in breaking down opponents’ tendencies, Hanson was a highly regarded offensive assistant during a three-year stint with the Minnesota Vikings from 2003 to 2005.

    “Randy Hanson’s a great coach,” said former Vikings center Matt Birk(notes), a perennial Pro Bowl selection now with the Baltimore Ravens. “He would break down opposing defenses for us, and he was outstanding. He’s an extremely hard worker. That used to be the joke – he never stopped. He’d sleep in the office and watch every bit of tape he could find.”

    Added former Vikings quarterback Brad Johnson(notes): “I really enjoyed being around him. He brought a lot of flavor to the room and to the field, and I thought he had a lot of insights into game plans.”

    After spending the ’06 season with the St. Louis Rams, Hanson was let out of his contract to join first-year coach Lane Kiffin’s Oakland staff because, he says, then Rams-coach Scott Linehan was aware of his devotion to the Raiders. In Oakland, he worked as an assistant secondary coach in charge of third-down defenses and impressed his fellow coaches with his knowledge of opposing offenses and his ability to convey his insights to the players.

    “He knows what the opposing team’s gonna do before they know what they’re gonna do,” said one former Raiders assistant who worked closely with Hanson. “That’s how much tape he watches. And he’s a damn good football coach, too.”

    After making some disparaging locker-room comments about the Raiders’ preparation following the team’s 41-14 defeat to the Denver Broncos at the start of the 2008 season, Hanson received a five-day suspension for insubordination from Kiffin, who did not inform Davis of his action. The owner cited this as one of many reasons for Kiffin’s dismissal during a press conference last Oct. 1 to announce the firing.

    Shortly after Cable was named interim coach, Hanson claims Cable told him in a staff meeting, “If I could fire you, I would.”

    Following the ’08 season Cable told his assistants that he would meet with each of them to discuss their futures with the team should he be hired as the permanent coach. According to Hanson, however, Cable “met with every guy but me.”

    On Jan. 20, Hanson had what he said was his first-ever “one-on-one, face-to-face meeting” with the owner. In what was supposed to be a 15-minute session to address Hanson’s prospects of remaining with the team, the coach apparently wowed the owner with his grasp of football and with his knowledge of Raiders history.

    “We met for more than two-and-a-half hours,” Hanson recalled. “At the start of the meeting, he said, ‘I know you’re a hard worker and you love the Raiders, but I don’t know what you do that helps this football team. I do not know if you can coach or not.’ By the end he had given me a raise and told me he wanted me to stay on as ‘assistant coach-defense.’ My role would be to teach the new defensive coaches what we did on defense last year so they’ll know some of the things I like. He also said he wanted to groom me on the personnel side. He said he wanted me to play an important role in the future of the organization.”

    At the conclusion of the meeting, Hanson was asked by Davis whether he thought Cable would be a good choice as head coach. “I told Mr. Davis yes,” Hanson recalled. “He won his last two games, and I felt like he deserved a chance.”

    However, after Cable was officially hired in early February, Hanson quickly began to suspect that the head coach did not share the owner’s enthusiasm for his new role.

    First Cable, at the press conference announcing his hiring, laid out his staff for reporters without mentioning Hanson. The following day, according to Hanson, Cable told him that he had just had a phone conversation with Davis in which the owner had described Hanson as a quality-control coach, a much less prestigious post with mostly administrative responsibilities.

    Recalled Hanson: “Tom said, ‘Don’t worry – I’m not going to do that to you. I’ll make you a defensive assistant.’ Tom demoted me, and I became the league’s highest-paid defensive assistant.”

    The slights continued over the spring. Hanson was told by Cable’s assistant not to accompany the rest of the staff to the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, and he ended up being given duties similar to that of a secretary. Hanson wasn’t invited to several staff functions, including a post-draft party and a trip to an Oakland A’s game.

    At a post-draft minicamp for rookies and free agents, Hanson said Cable “belittled” him in the process of introducing staff members to the players by implying that he was an assistant quality-control coach.

    Shortly before training camp, Davis grilled Marshall, the team’s new defensive coordinator, during a meeting. As Marshall struggled to answer a question from the owner, Hanson assisted the veteran coach by giving hand signals from the back of the room. Cable, Hanson said, seemed to have been angered by his actions.
     

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