Stats are just numbers...but: Facts The Jets have the 7th highest Yards/Game rush average. Of the 6 teams ahead of them, 2 have a 2-0 record, 2 are 1-1 and 2 are 0-2. The 2-0 Teams Minnesota---They have AP...Adrian farking Peterson Baltimore--- They have played KC and SD in 2 high scoring games The 1-1 Teams Dallas--- They have a great run team with a vet QB who can throw deep. Buffalo--- Playing Tampa helps pad stats. The 0-2 Teams Miami---The wildcat NCAA offense is all run Tennessee--- Chris Johnson. The Jets are 14th in YPC. Not bad considering teams are stacking the line to challenge a rookie QB. Notable teams behind the Jets in YPC: New England NYG Pittsburgh SD Houston Thomas Jones is splitting carries with Leon. They rank 12 and 18 respectively. The only other teams in the top 20 with a tandem RB team: Dallas and Baltimore. YPC Eliminating RBs with less than 20 carries for the season, TJ is ranked 15 in YPC. Leon is ranked 22. Just some food for thought for the Same Old Fans
I think the problem people are having with the running game is that it seems to be either feast or famine and it hasn't really been feast in the first half of either game so far. It would be nice to have a little more consistency and production from the running game out of the gate, but I really don't see that happening until they take the reigns off Sanchez early in games. That said, as you clearly pointed out we have had plenty of production from the run game so far.
I agree WSW. Inconsistent. But also opportunistic. If the running game was not there, we would not be 2-0.
Somebody in another thread said that we aren't a run-first team, that was just bluster to confuse defensive coordinators. 57% of our plays thus far have been runs, tops in the league. If we're not a run-first team, one doesn't exist in the NFL. Teams are selling out to stop our run, and as the OP pointed out, they still aren't shutting it down.
Like many people, I was expecting more out of our running game as well. I think we can compare our running game to our pass rush from last year- The Jets through the first half of the season last year were top 3 in sacks in the NFL, but it seemed like we never got any pressure of the QB. Just because the stats say we have good numbers, doesn't mean that we are producing the way we want to. I certainly believe that our running game will improve, as long as Sanchez continues to play well, as teams have been stacking 8 in the box and will eventually have to start respecting him.
The Jets overall rushing performance has been more than acceptable so far. They are running on 1st down too often though and have given Sanchez a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs to deal with as a result. The numbers look good on the surface with 33 rushes (that ESPN recorded) on 1st down for 145 yards. That would satisfy any offensive coordinator that the run was pulling it's weight early in the sequence. The problem is that 3 of the rushes account for nearly half the overall yards gained on 1st down and the other 30 account for only 80 yards between them. That's where the disconnect is. The 3 rushes that make everything else look good are the 38 yard TD run by Jones against an exhausted Texan's defense that had been on the field too much, a 15 yard run on a reverse by Brad Smith and a 12 yard run by Leon Washington out of the Seminole. Other than that you have two good 1st down rushes all season, 8 and 9 yards on back to back plays by Jones against the Pats in the 1st quarter. If you include those 2 runs in the "good" package then you have 5 carries on 1st down that have generated 82 yards and 28 other carries that have gotten just 63. Keep putting Sanchez under that kind of pressure and eventually things will start to break down. The Jets need to pass on 1st down at least 40% of the time, probably a bit more, to keep teams honest in the box.
take out Thomas Jones 2 long runs at the end of that Houston game and we haven't ran the ball well at all. teams are going to make Sanchez beat them. I think we should come out throwing and let Sanchez pick apart the secondary so they don't stack the box.
i dunno what the big deal is or why people are worried. its as simple as this to me. teams are stacking the box to run against us. furthermore, we run ALOT to set up the pass for Sanchez. the fact our backs both average over 4 yards a carry simply means the game plan to not force Sanchez to win games early on is fully effective. teams KNOW we can run the ball. they KNOW they have to scheme to defend that. Sanchez, has looked great so far. but he has yet to prove he can shred a defense on a consistent basis. until then, teams will run blitz more than we were used to seeing last year. so the myth is what? people thinking our run game sucks? if thats the case most of you dont know football. by the way, GOOD POST by the OP. FOR THE REST OF YOU WHO CAN APPRECIATE HOW THESE STATS TRANSLATE TO OUR OFFENSIVE PHILOSPHY. Thomas Jones: http://www.nfl.com/players/thomasjones/situationalstats?id=JON755755 Leon Washington: http://www.nfl.com/players/leonwashington/situationalstats?id=WAS503628 the situational stats tell quite alot. it can be skewed cause were only two games in but it gives a good indication of whats to come. im very interested to see what they look like say, 8 weeks from now. let alone 14.
You can not do that. Take out APs 2 long runs. Take out Chris Johnson's 2 long runs. Take out Frank Gore's 2 long runs. The run game is not a pansy long run game. It is smash mouth. Damn it! FUCK ALL THIS SHIT!!! Watch the game and not the "fantasy line" on YAHOO.
I can't stand that argument. Every coach in the league will tell you- three yards here, four yards there, and then finally you break one. That's exactly what is expected from a solid rushing attack.
If the Jets were doing that we'd be rosy. The Jets are going -1 to 2 regularly on 1st down and then getting 3 or 4 now and then alongside that.
Take a look at the FO offensive line stats. The Jets lead the league in fewest stuffed runs with only 10% of runs for a loss.
Tell ya what. Take out the 50-something TD passes Brady threw back in 2007. He hasn't done jack shit that year.
Take away our 40 pts scored and we're 0-2. Damn we suck, I hope we can do some things that can not be taken away by stupid people.
On 85% of their first down plays they are averaging under 2 yards a carry. That's 5 carries for 82 yards and 28 carries for 63 yards. That's a lot of carries leading to 2nd and 8 or longer. They haven't been able to run right at all this year. The numbers look ok at RG and C but that's where Jones 2 big carries went and if you pull those out we're at or under 2 yards a carry again. The Jets aren't even trying to run around right end because they have a TE whose job is to catch the ball not block. Really the running game has not contributed at the level it needs to. If it had we'd be scoring more because there's no question that the QB and pass protection are up to the job. 4 TD drives in 22 overall. That needs to improve and in order for that to happen the Jets need to pass a bit more on 1st down and they need to figure out why they're having trouble running right. That's got to get fixed.
Thats all I've been saying, I love our running backs and our Oline, but the Oline is a bit suspect at the runblocking, they aren't terrible, but they aren't great either, and how well are our TE's doing???? Anyway we are gonna be alright, though even Rex has made a comment on the running game. PEACE!:finssuck:
^^^^ /head-desk... Is simple math really that hard to do? Teams are playing us early with 8 in the box. Most of the time, we have 7 blockers. Eight minus seven leaves one person unblocked most of the time, and if that person is a good athlete, they will be making the play. Our run blocking is actually outstanding, any time a back like Thomas Jones who has NOTHING special about him except his ability to stay healthy runs for the kind of numbers he ran for last year.... the blocking is superb.
I noticed that in both games the OL really wore down the DL. In the HOuston game, Jones' two long runs proved it, but in the Pats game you can really see all those one and two yarders turning into four five yarders. In the first half they got some penetration, but in the second half, they were getting totally blwon off the ball. There are just four yard holes everywhere. It's a credit to their back end that the bleeding wasn't worse.
