I just realized how bad vajayjaybny really was... .....he is now the second worst theganggreen poster that i've seen (21st century) worse then rajensen and the undertow still not as bad a raiderjoe
There was a nice 1/2 page article in the L.A. Times today about how Rex is liked and appreciated by his players. Bunch of quotes from said players on what a shithead Mangini was. I'm just glad the JETS are finally getting some coverage out here.
I can't believe I conitnued to read this thread after the OP, but I did. Mangini the worst NYJ coach of all time? Him being fired after having two out of three winning seasons, makes him better then a couple coach's we have had in the past. Apparently you didn't fully grasp how bad Herm drove this team into the ground, hell, just look at KC now, that train never stopped. It only got derailed in a different direction.
This is pretty much how I feel, too. When Mangini was fired, it was time. I do not think of him as a bad coach, but I do think of him as being somewhat non-charismatic, a bit arrogant, and not good with player relationships at all.
I liked Mangini until last year's stretch when Favre was hurt and he didn't insist on running the ball more. That to me was his greatest failure.
That's my point exactly this team was built as a 4-3 cover two defense , instead of being adaptable and using the pieces that were there -the stubborn jackass Mangini gutted it so he could run the only defense he knew anything about . Most coaches ,slowly morph into their systems with their players by using hybrid schemes , its become eveidently clear that Manigni had no clue how to do that .
This was always Mangini's fatal flaw. Even during games the Jets would get wiped out in the third quarter because other teams made adjustments, while Manigini stubbornly refused to alter his gameplan. To all those saying that Mangini clearly did a better job than Herm because he had 2/3 winning seasons, Herm had a winning record in 3 out of 5 seasons (the 2 losing campaigns being years in which Chad Pennington went down.) And I think that it says a lot about the kind of person that Mangini is that he was run out of town despite his success--at the end of the day, people don't want to be around him because he's a dick.
Definitely worse than Herm Edwards. Edwards' fatal flaw was clock management, but that aside he was a terrific motivator, his players would run through walls for him, and he kept the team stable through a lot of issues that would have derailed most teams.
Mangini is a far better coach than Herman Edwards ever was. People tend to like Herm better because even though he's an idiot, he's friendly and he's funny. He'll make you laugh while he's running your franchise into the ground. Mangini simply isn't a likable guy. I do respect him as a football mind and I think he has the potential to be an above average coach.
Mangini did get horrid toward the end, but don't let that distort his overall record and presence with the team. He was definitely better than Edwards, who didn't know how to use his players, sucked as game manager and left town as a lying sack of doo doo. On the other hand, Mangini did get worse as time went on, which has to be viewed as troubling.
IMO both were terrible and neither should have been HC's . I would rate Herm a better HC simply based on his understanding of the game. His flaws were ultra conserative gameplans on both sides of the ball and in game management. Mangini ( or should I call him the Stepford coach) fooled us all with a successfull first year . But years two and three just proved how much over his head he was. He will go down as probably one of the most inflexible HC's to ever walk the sidelines. His in-game adjustments made Herm look llike a genius . Bottom line both should never have been Hc's.
Mangini did bring in a lot of good players here. David Harris, Darrelle Revis, Keller, Mangold, and D'Brickshaw Fergosun
Again think about that statement - was it Mangini or was it Tannenbaum and the Pro scouts. Mangini may have had a say in the players chosen but no way did he run the draft autonomously.
He was part of the decision-making process. He left the Jets in a better position to win than Herm did, that's for sure. Speaking of Herm, I'm surprised his #1 cheerleader hasn't shown up here yet.
you do respect his football mind? why? herm sucked, but our team was closer in reaching the superbowl under herm, than all three seasons combined under mangina. hell he even believed that bringing farve in would get him over the hump of 1st round playoff loser. i guess mangina named his first child after farve, with hopes that it would make a difference. thats like getting a tatoo of a girls name on your body, after meeting her the previous weekend at a bar...."I think i'm in love already." do you really respect his football mind?
