If we are talking about AFL snubs then Art Powell should be considered: Art Powell (1959-1968) - 117 games, 479 rec, 8,046 rec yds, 16.8 avg, 81TDs (All time second team AFT behind Lance Alworth and Don Maynard). 4X pro bowl, 2X 1st team all-pro, 4X second team all-pro, led AFL 2X in TDs, receiving TDs, receiving yards, and receiving yards per game. 18th all time in receiving TDs.
Michael Irvin won 3 SBs and was on a team so good they won a SB w/ Barry Switzer as it's HC. irvin also did not use PEDs(or get caught using) and he didn't quit on his team. I agree w/ you Gastinaeau wasn't an all-around great player but pass rushers are judged on sacking the QB and there weren't many better than gastineau in his prime. Kelcko yes but Wesley is not even in the HOF discussion. Good player for us but does not even merit HOF consideration. Aaron Glenn was a very overrated corner for us. Again, good player but never a true shutdown guy. he used to get roasted by good WRs and remember we made our run to the AFC Title Game w/o him.
We did? I don't remember that. I know he made a big INT in the end zone in the MNF game at New England to turn the game around, that was in October. Then he got toasted twice by Joey Galloway early in the game we won on Vinny's phantom TD at the end, that was early December. Did he get hurt at the end of that year? I know Marvin Jones got hurt in camp in July and missed the whole year, but I thought Glenn played.
Glenn was nicked up in 98 but made the pro bowl and had 6 INT's that season. With the exception of Revis who I think will be better, Glenn was probably the best CB to ever play for the Jets.
if mawae makes one more all pro team and two more pro bowls and plays until he's 42, he'll go in. right now he's on the cusp. he better go in as a Jet. It would be a kick in the teeth if he didn't. at the same time - if the Titans give him a ring, it makes him a lock and he goes in as a Titan... interesting situation.
He got hurt in that Seattle game I believe and he was out until the playoffs but only came in during nickel situations in postseason. Hasty was better than Glenn. The pro football HOF is different than baseball. The players don't go in as players from certain teams so it's not like an MLB player wearing a particular cap.
They didn't throw at Glenn when they were starting together. Hasty was very good, not as good as Glenn.
They were different types of players. Hasty was a much bigger hitter and better against the run, Glenn was a better cover guy, much faster and had better hands.
I don't think the Jets have had a better defender than Aaron "Deuce" Glenn since 1990. Including Mo Lewis. (I have an old Topps card that says Glenn's nickname is "Deuce," but there was no explanation for it, and throughout his career I never heard another reference to it. Weird.)
They played together for one year and Glenn was a rookie. They were throwing at Glenn. hasty was a better corner, I think Glenn gets overrated a bit by Jet fans. Revis is miles ahead of Glenn.
Respectfully and totally, I disagree. I think Glenn actually gets LESS respect than he deserves because he was undersized, and because as a coverage corner he was almost never on the TV screen. I'm not a big fan of the "shut-down" label, but imo, he's the only FORMER Jet who qualifies. Since I've been a fan, anyway. I liked Hasty, but he was not in the same class.
Just once I'd like to see us have two good corners at the same time. It always seems like we have one really good one and the other side gets burned constantly in big situations.
It's ok to disagree but I saw Glenn get beat far too many times, he wasn't even our best corner in '98- Otis Smith was.
It's Klecko number one Followed by McNeil and Gastineau. No coincidentally they are all form the same team in the 80's. Still my favorite Jets team of all time. Klecko should be in the Hall. Pro Bowls at 3 different positions, he was a man among men. Played not only hurt but injured. There is a difference as Parcells says. He was unblockable in his prime. Think Richard Seymour with a nasty streak. McNeil was the engine and an underrated RB in the league. Shifty in the hole and a good receiver. And Gastineau has more pure talent as a pass rusher than almost anyone. He was just such a selfish head case it went to waste. Still he did pile up the stats and should still have th sack record. I don't count that Favre gift to Starhan. A joke.
:grin: He still would have been 6'6" and quick without roids, but the NFL in the 80s was probably a more level playing field because they were all likely doing it. Remember what those O-linemen used to look like?
I agree with JUNC! Klecko and Winston Hill. Winston Hill will never make it, because the old timers still believe to this day that the AFL was a joke league. They still don't vote for the old AFL players to make the hall.
One guy on the Jets who I didn't think took them was Powell. He looked like a WR. The guy played in the 260's lean as could be. The other guy that no one mentioned who was pre steriod and pre sack stats is Philbin. Before he got hurt the guy was as good off the edge as it gets. Tremendous player for us in 68.
