Way too much power indeed. It's because the NFLPA and Union are the weakest of all the pro sports. The NFL has been run by the commissioner and the owners for way too long now. Until there's the proper checks and balances in place in the form of a strong players rep. then this heavy handed bs will continue to happen. I agree that his unwielding authority is not good for the game.
I wouldn't have been surprised if this asshole would have waited until we made the playoffs and suspended him then
You guys are making Ellis out to be Bruce Smith. He has been an average to below average DE the last few years and is hardly a "pass rushing DE." He can easily be replaced for one game by the players on the roster. Let me ask you a question. If midway through the first quarter, Ellis turned an ankle and we were told he "would not return" would you be saying "there goes this game?" I doubt it. So why say it now???? He is an overpaid space eater at this point in his career.
the guy has always had talent, and when he gets a dominant player like jenkins going beside him, he finally performs. the guy had 8 sacks last year in a position where sacks are at a premium. (3=4 DE) It's now like we are the giants and can roll anyone in there. Ellis is a huge part of that line, and facing a super bowl darkhorse like the texans (IMO) without him is going to hurt.
I have to agree with Joe Willie White Shoes here, Ellis is a constant under-performer. At his peek he was JUST above average, now on the downside of his career hes an expensive commodity. Marques Douglas anyone ?? Texans SB darkhorses ? hmy:
Ellis is still a solid 3-4 DE, they aren't supposed to be pass rushers. It amazes me that people still don't understand the 2-gap role a 3-4 DE plays. This will highlight Tanny's lack of drafting any 3-4 linemen over the past 4 drafts IMO.
He is. Ellis is a decent end, but he's not in the same area code as Seymour. Seymour takes up two linemen on every play. No way do other teams devote two linemen to Ellis.
You guys watch a different Ellis to the one I see. He always looks laboured and ungainly. The best that he seems to do is get in the way. If I were a LB he would frustrate the hell out of me. Seymour regularly takes up 2 blockers and this usually leaves a LB unblocked. Ugh , comparing Jets and Pats...so last century.
Ellis is a better at defending against the run than rushing the passer. I agree that losing him won't matter so much in stopping the Schaub to Johnson connection, I would be more worried about Steve Slaton running wild without Ellis. But lets see what else we have before we declare 0-1.
If I were to make a list of defensive players e could not afford to lose for a game, Ellis would rank somewhere about 8th or 9th among the starters. He is a classic underachiever on the downside of a career. He had one great year in 2004 and a couple of other good years before then. I am a STH and I watch individual players and he is as ordinary as ordinary gets now. He needs to send John Abraham thank you cards and flowers that he is a rich man, because without Abraham, Ellis would not have made the money or had the career he had. I am not losing any sleep over him missing one game, 3-4 two gap end or not. He is not a playmaker nor does he occupy blockers like Jenkins. He plays because he is one of the top two ends of a very non-descript Jet DE group.
As much as I hate that he got suspended, pot is illegal, regardless of personal opinion. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I hate it when people break laws and get no more than a slap on the wrist. It defeats the purpose of laws if there are no consequences. He broke the law and got an appropriate suspension. Until they legalize it, tough titty. We shouldn't compare it to what others got. That's like complaining about a speeding ticket by telling the cop that others were going faster than you. Doesn't change the fact that you were speeding. While I think the commish might be a little tough, I don't think its such a bad thing to try to clean up the league a little. Maybe some of these guys will decide it isn't a good idea to carry guns around and smoke weed all day long. I'm not saying we have to bus the entire NFL to church on Sunday or anything, but these guys are role models for kids. Rules are rules. It isn't that hard to keep it legal. Damn I sound old.
No DE occupies blockers like Jenkins. That's a ridiculous comparison. I agree we don't have much in terms of DE's, but I think you're underrating Ellis. He's a solid 3-4 DE. I wouldn't compare him to Seymour, but he's solid. Our lack of depth at DE is just more reason for concern while he's missing a game.
But he IS a playmaker. HE's a 2-gap DE and he still leads the team in sacks. That is major credit to jenkins of course, but I'm in disbelief that people would think murrell or someone else could fill in and do the job just as well.
it is amazing that people still dont grasp the role of a 3-4 de. good 3-4 des are in actuality dts. he is still a very serviceable de, he will be missed but like someone else stated this shouldnt change the plan as he will need rest throughout the year and can always get injured. the thing i really got out of this thread is a little bit more respect for what the texans are looking to bring to the table this year.
