i'm saying it doesn't really matter what you want to call him because you are just a fan trying to talk shit about some technicality.
Zach Miller can do it all. Catch, block, punt, kick, pass, run, coach, cheerlead and even manage the salary cap! He's done an amazing job so far. You get your jersey yet Jeaux?
I love it. You can't make an arguement why Keller better than zach miller.(because there is no numbers you can use to show he is) So lets try to change the topic. I will prove how much your full of shoot. Lets say whichever TE puts up better numbers, the poster whose guy lost is permantely banned from this board. Are you in. MY Te is younger, already better player, better looking , a complete TE, and has the way better qb. So its in the bag whose going to put up better numbers next season.
Haha shut the fuck up Joe. Nobody here is saying Miller sucks, we just think he's nowhere near as good as you say he is. Also, why don't you compare each of the players' rookie seasons to have an equal fair comparison? Then after this season, we can compare their respective second seasons as well, and you can be banned. Kapeesh?
Better looking? Jake woudln't know, Jake doesn't swing that way... but I'll take your word for it Joe.
IF both players were the same age we would look at their rookie year, but when that rookie is already 15 months olader than the second year TE. Don't you think its changes the circumstances. It's not Zach miller fault that Dustin Keller is dumb or his parents held him back to gain an unfair adavantage against kids that weren't as mature as him physically. See danny Almonte. That baseball. Its alot worse in a physical sport like football.
No, I don't think it changes the circumstances. What year he entered the draft has no bearing on his talent. Maybe in your world it makes his 40 time a little slower, or he's a little shorter and lighter.... but in the real world it has no effect at all. NFL experience can be gained at any age, right now Keller has 1 year and Miller has 2. So we will see at the end of Keller's second season where he's at, compare it to Miller's second year, and you will effectively be banned forever. I will dance upon your virtual grave, and probably also leave a huge duke on top of your tombstone. "Here lies Raiderjoe: 5'5" 275 6.65 100 mph fastball"
NO its called being comfortable in your own sexuality. If you have some friends( maybe you don'T) you surely have some you know have the looks. That dosen't mean you want to sleep with them.
That's cute Joe. I was obviously spoofing one of your previous posts you jackass. In all honesty though, Miller looks pretty fucking ugly to me. To each their own Joe, I know how comfortable you are with your homosexuality.
IT does do. Especially in the scout eyes as overraged prospect are pushed down the draft boards. Why do you think they list Overraged prospect in all the draft mazazines because its a defintely a negative. Again what you see from overraged prospect is probably what they are going to be, while a young player could get a whole lot better as they mature(physically) You want to argue that statement. Stay down jake.
He is but compare to Dustin"Forest gump best friend' Keller , hes Brad Pitt. Maybe thats why Dustin Keller took so long to graduate from college.(he has a severe learning disabilty)
Who fuckin' cares? He's 24 years old.... That's old to you? Should the NYJ start looking for a replacement?
Correction 25 in September . Zach miller 23, won't be 24 till December. Shonn Gre&ene is 24(thats who you must be confusing Keller with) Btw D Mcfadden 21, Shonn Greene is 24 years old. See what happens when you have ability to play right away.
Okay. Let me rephrase that. Who fuckin' cares? He's 25 years old... That's old to you? Should the NYJ start looking for a replacement? This is what happens when you stay in on a Saturday night, you end up discussing your TE's age with fuckin Raiderjoe.
Not to me personally. But when were comparing a 23 year old TE(who put up better numbers) to a 25 year old H-back . Its laughable to try and make a case that 25 year old is the better player. See what this thead is all about.
I didn't once say he was the better player. Ever. So please untangle your panties. My point is that Keller will prove the be the better weapon in the passing game, in due time, and will become an adequate blocker making him not a liability in any facet of the game. You can't prove Miller's blocking is good as there is no stats and it's all heresay at this point. He might have caught more passes last year but he also has an extra year under his belt (that year being huge in a player's development). Something you can't seem to grasp.
YEs I can prove he is as good a blocker as advertized. HIs rookie year- look at the first half Raiders ran the ball alot and rarely went out in pass patterns (he was a big part of the running game sucess). Only when Jamarcus Russell played very late did zach Miller start to put up some big numbers in the passing game.(again why it silly to try and copmpare both rookie years) His second season Raiders had alot of times keep him in more times than they like, to pass protect because there tacklers weren't that good. Zach miller numbers are only going to skyrocket in the future. They are starting to put alot weapons around him.DHB stretching the field is only going to open more of the middle for zach Miller to exploit. He destroyed every TE with 20 plus yard gains(thats only going to go way up) There is a reason they drafted TE Brandon meyers this year. He a blocker whose going to free up zach miller to be able to go out in the pass patterns more. another fact the Raiders probably have thrown the football less the last two years, than any team in football( a testament to just how good zach miller is) Raiders top recievers will be 1 Te zach miller 2 Darren Mcfadden 3 Chaz Scxhilens 4 Louis murphy. BTW How can Keller ever be the better weapon in the passing game. Zach miller has jamarcus Russell throwing lazer beams down the seam(thats russell best pass he can throw with his eyes closed- extremely accurate) It isn't by accident that Zach Miller has so many 20 plus yards gains. (again with DHB stretching the field, only going way way up)
For a little while I forgot that Raiders 2009: 16-0 Jam Russell 10,000 yds 200 TDs 0 INT Chaz Schillens 400 Rec 6000 YDs Zach Miller 200 Rec 2500 YDS 45 TDs. #1 Offense, #1 Defense. Jon Alston 330 tackles (all for loss), T Scott 37 sacks. All HOF class of 2030. Woe is the NFL. Brace yourselves.
Why on earth did no one mention this line? half the board wants joe gone somebody should take him up on his offer...
