Is There Any Way Kellen Clemens Starts for the Jets This Season?

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Hoe did your QB's pick'd in the plsyoffs treat ya? Good to know you don;t have much yo look forward to in that department except choke pennington as well.
     
  2. guinness77

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    For the love of God, can we not turn this thread into a 700 reply back-and-forth about Chad. Please? I really don't get it....do you come in here to just stir up shit, is that what you do?
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    And you wonder why people treat you like a worthless troll instead of someone trying to 'debate with football knowledge'. Somewhere inside your skull is a dead hamster on a wheel.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The only way he really has a chance is if Sanchez falls on his face. if they are close Sanchez is starting. I just hope they don't rush Sanchez, I'm comfortable heading into the season w/ kellen if Sanchez isn't quite ready yet.
     
  5. Psycho 78

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    You can call me a troll all you would like but the real truth and you and I both know it is that the Jets don't have a QB. Clemmens is in a competition with a guy who has never played in a fucking NFL game. If he can't win that job hands down then the guy is worthless which puts a rookie as a starting QB. Sanchez is an inexperienced guy who played limited time in college and really has never been tested. If you want to bank your season on what you see in shorts be my guest but the situation is what it is. The NY Jets don't have a QB.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You don't know the real truth... your posts are almost childlike in their simplicity. I doubt you even understand that much about your own team, or the game of football in general. So instead you make grand and unsupported statements to piss people off, because your e-penis is just a tiny little thing.
     
  7. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    How do you know the Jets don't have a QB? If we cannot bank on what we see "in shorts" how can you bank on what you see "in shorts". No one knows. We could have Peyton Manning, or Todd Marinovich. But it is freakin JULY. Yet you know. Thanks.
     
  8. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    We do not know what we truly have in Clemens (8 starts cannot tell a Quarterbacks story) and we sure as heck don't know what we have in Sanchez yet either. Yet you somehow think you have a Quarterback when you have an injury plagued starter behind center and his reserve was a career choke artist at Michigan (and I'm a Michigan fan, I know what I'm talking about with Henne).
     
  9. JetsFan

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    we don't know what we have at QB and either QB is a chance, so take the chance on the guy getting all the money.

    Kellen can serve as a backup this season and be on his way next year.

    Kellen was a chance draft pick from the start after missing most of his senior year and he has not shown anything in the NFL, either in practice or game time.
     
  10. Sinq15

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    Personally, I don't know how KC won't clearly out-perform Sanchez in TC/preseason considering the 1st-2nd rd talent has 3yrs under his belt learning the system. Well, of course, the only way is if he is awful.

    I don't see the harm in starting KC, assuming he shows he is competent enough in TC/preseason. We start him, if he wins and/or plays well, we keep playing him. If we start 1-4 or something along those lines with him, we throw Sanchez in to get his experience going. If KC has us in playoff contention, we ride him.

    The result: either playoffs/playoff contention or start of Sanchez era (knowing that we didn't have anything in KC)

    Seems pretty simple to me.
     
  11. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it really is. Conversely were the Jets to NOT give KC a chance, they risk putting in Sanchez too soon, meanwhile undermine KC were they then to have to go back to him, and be assured there is no scenario open for getting anything for KC in a trade. If they were going to do that there's a certain logic in just cutting KC now and looking around for a vet Qb to backup Sanchez. Perhaps one reason they have not done that is they think KC will either be the starter on opening day or will be a reliable backup who will have gotten PT in pre-season.
     
  12. BacktoQueens

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    And Sanchez is not a "chance", with limited college and NFL experience?
    your argument makes no sense.

    Both are chances. Sanchez is just more highly touted as a prospect.
    If Clemens performs well in camp, it's his job to lose.
    To allow money to decide who you start, is to allow your franchise down the wrong path. I'm not buying into that theory.
     
  13. BacktoQueens

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    Well said. It is simple.
     
  14. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I'll be surprised if Sanchez starts the season. Based on what I've read about the OTA's he's been taking too long to make decisions. That's not surprising at all considering he's a rookie QB getting used to the speed of the NFL game. Once the pads go on it will be much more of a problem if he's taking too long to make decisions.

    I'm looking forward to the Sanchez era, but I'd hate to see them put him and the team at risk by throwing him into the fire before he's ready. If he's ready, by all means put him in.
     
  15. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Wrong. Please insert quarter and try again. It's not a controversy; it's uncertainty because neither QB is proven. Camp hasn't even begun yet so we haven't seen either perform at full speed. How could there be controversy at this point? Jeez, do yourself and us a favor: learn about the game and its terminology before posting anymore. Thanks.

    As of recently, Cassel didn't start A college game and had success in the NFL. Flacco wasn't really tested at Delaware and had success in the NFL.

    Jumping to this conclusion that the Jets "don't have a QB" is quite dumb.
     
  16. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    he's not even a real dolphin fan.

    any respectable (loosely used) dolphins fan here in miami hates ted ginn jr with a passion.
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I would say the odds are very much in favor of a settlement at this point given the current economic situation. The players need a cap in the worst way because it sets minimums as well as maximums and there are a bunch of teams that would drop their payroll precipitously if they had an option to do so. Look at baseball for an understanding of what the underlying economics would be if owners could suddenly cut $30-40 million dollars of payroll for 2010. The union can't afford for owners to have that gap because it might dramatically change the way that the economic basis of the game works moving forward. The relatively small group of players who have fulfilled three years and less than five years of service and are free agents will be pushing hard in that direction also, but it's the overall economic picture that will push the union to concessions.

    On the owners side of the ledger the pressure to reach an agreement is much less, however the prohibition of the best teams ability to sign free agents in the uncapped season will cause them to work towards a compromise also, although not at the level the players do. The last CBA was negotiated specifically to put the onus on the players if the agreement was negated by either side. It's going to accomplish that goal and will likely cause significant fractures in the player union before all is said and done.

    I think we wind up with a settlement, a lot of fairly unhappy players, and Kellen Clemens as an unrestricted free agent in the end.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Why is that? Was it his fault they took him a little high? He's not good yet but he did get alot better last year and it usually takes WRs 2-3 years to develop so I would think Dolphin fans are fine where Ginn is in his development.
     
  19. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Becasue Ginn cost them a shot at a Quinn who at the time looked liek a shoe-in pick. When your team has as many holes as Maimi did goign int othat draft a WR should be your last priority.

    Look at Calvin Johnson. He's one of the best in the game, but is stuck in the suck hole of shit in detroit. He would be a game changing difference maker on another team. If he can put up 1300 yards and 12 TD's with the likes of Dan Orlovsky starting 10 games, think of what he could do with real talent.

    Ginn was the last thing the Phins needed at that time. A potential Franchise QB, either line, and DB needed tons of help. All of those should take priority over a "good" receiver who looks like a very good return man.

    So yes, as fans do, they hate Ginn for where he was picked. He'll never live up to his draft slot and be a dissapointment for Phin fans unless he starts preforming at a very high level. Given the Way Parcells runs a team, with emphisis on ball controll, I don't see it happening.
     

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