We've got some pretty savvy guys on the board in terms of stats. Obviously they get them from somewhere. I usually get mine from MLB.com, or ESPN. There are better sources out there though. Right now, I'm specifically looking for a site where I can get team stats with RISP (preferably AVG and OPS.) It's not exactly for me, but a co-worker was asking, and it would be nice to have for myself. So let's hear it guys. Where can one go to find loads of stats?
Baseball-reference.com is really good, especially the new version they've put up this year. Espn isn't bad either though. Baseball-Prospectus has got some really cool, advanced stuff, but a lot of it is too nerdy for me. And a lot of the site is subscription only. Here are the Yankees' states with RISP: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=NYY&year=2009#bases, assuming that's the team you wanted.
Alio, you do realize your technically asking people like Cappy and nyjunc to divulge their entire defense/points/arguments/etc., don't u?
If you ever compare me to junc again, I will hunt you down and neuter you like the dog you are. Alio, as mentioned, Baseball-Reference.com is awesome and, in the context you provided, is the site you want. Hardballtimes.com is very good, as well, although not for what you're looking for right now, it seems. I also recommend fangraphs.com and -- if you want to break down pitching performances -- BrooksBaseball.net's Pitch F/X tool. ETA: Here is an example of a page from Baseball-reference that has the kind of information you're looking for. I just picked the 2009 Yankee team splits. Link.
Thanks guys, Baseball-reference.com is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. Rmagedon, I wasn't really worried about asking. If I weren't such a sloth I'd have googled until I found it myself. I actually started a thread rather than say, just PM Cappy, so that others could benefit from it as well. Plus, I knew they wouldn't horde the knowledge little greedy misers. I may argue with these guys at times, but they're good people. BTW: As I look through these stats, I'm like HOLY SHIT! They even have stats for "clutch" situations! Pretty freaking cool.
The coolest thing about B-ref that they've added this year is the customizable stat search. Bring up a player's page, and then click anywhere on the stat line for one year (e.g. on Posada's page, click anywhere on his 2003 stat line). The stat line should turn a light blue. Then click on the stat line for another year (e.g.), and you'll get Posada's stats from (in this example) 2003-2006. You can also do it for in season performance. Hover over "Game logs" (link right below the big read "Standard Batting" header), click on a year.... then click on the stat line for any game, and the stat line for any other game. You'll have his stats over that period. Using that, you can see/find all kinds of neat stuff. Like how even though Phil Coke has a 3.24 ERA, since May 19th, he's had a 1.65 ERA. Before that, he had a 4.76 ERA.
Yeah, I was just playing with it a little bit. I sent the link to the Yankees' RISP to my co-worker, and he e-mails me back like "Whoa! Where do I find what I'm looking for?!" Hahah. Pretty cool site. It would be nice if I could look at every team's RISP AVG and OPS at once, but I don't see anywhere to do it. It's definitely a cool site to get stats from though. Definitely a great find. Thanks guys! EDIT: BTW: WTF is OPS+? I just finally came to an understanding of OPS not too long ago...
If you put your mouse over any heading of a table, a popup will come up that explains what it is. For example, you'll see that OPS+ is a standardized version of OPS, where 100 is league average. This allows you to correct for effects like the pitching dominance of the 1960s, the steroid era, etc.
Right. And the way to read that is as follows: If a batter has an OPS+ of 122, he is 22% better than a league-average player.
My only gripe with BR is that they don't update stats instantaneously. For example, after Burnett's last game I wanted to see what Burnett's shiny new ERA + was since his ERA dipped below four. They made me wait another 15 hours before they updated. Bastards.
Don't you mean normalized, not standardized? Not sure that would have helped Alio's comprehension, but it might have.
The word "normalized" isn't really a statistical one. Standardizing a statistic means to put it into units that are context free, and things like OPS+ do that. If you took a statistics class and the teacher said that subtracting the mean and dividing by the standard deviation was "normalizing," they were incorrect - that is called standardizing. The confusion comes from the fact converting a general normally distributed random variable this way turns it into one that follows a standard normal distribution, and people focus on the "normal" part rather than the "standard" part.
Nope. Wouldn't have helped a bit. Cappy's explanation worked because I didn't understand that 100 was the median, and anything above is "above average." With that understanding, it makes complete sense, and actually becomes a somewhat useful statistic. So here's an additional question. Is there anywhere where I can compare team statistics against other teams? Basically what this guy is looking for is to see splits like the Yankees in close and late games with RISP vs. the rest of the league. I couldn't find that data on BR. I located where the league stats by team are, but I didn't see what he was looking for. There were situational statistics, such as moving a runner over with X # of outs, but nothing like "close and late OPS with RISP."
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=AL&year=2009 That's the splits for the entire AL. If you want team by team you might have to just open separate tabs and compare.
Ugh, I was debating which word to use. Of course, I picked wrong... Yeah, I was trying to find a team by team list. Basically, what he's looking for is to be able to say, okay, Boston's OPS is 2nd in the AL with RISP late and close, while the Yankees are 4th. (I have no idea if those positions are correct or not, just using an example.)
