He scoffs at the idea that Clemens even has a chance at winning. Sadly, I think he is right. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ross_tucker/06/17/camps/index.html
It's a competition, the terms are just skewed. Clemens starts if: 1) KC has an amazing training camp. 2) Sanchez has an amazingly bad training camp. Tie goes to the big contract. That's not a charade; that's sound business.
Well yeah, if in TC and pre-season they look almost the same of course Sanchez plays. But if either KC looks really good (even if Sanchez plays ok) or if Sanchez plays bad i can still see Clemens starting on day one. I think it's KC job to lose... because AT THIS MOMENT he is the best QB on the roster. I'm not saying he has more talent... just that his game is more up to NFL speed than Sanchez's... But if in the preseason games KC throws 5 interceptions and Sanchez throws 4 it's not that Sanchez plays because he has a bigger contract... Sanchez plays because he proved he can deliver at least the same amount of production as KC. I think KC starts the first 3-4 games of the season for sure... after that we'll see
PS another thing... throwing in a player who is not ready (ESPECIALLY AT QB) is not a very intelligent way of protecting a 60 million $ investment... so I think the only way Sanchez starts is if the Coaching staff really thinks he's up for it...
I know it was just OTA's, but the way Clemens has been running with the first practice squad is telling me Sanchez still has some learning to do and get a real feel for the speed of the game. If that continues in TC and Clemens is the clear cut better QB of the two, I think the CS will do the right thing. So far, the Ryan regime has done things that make sense for this team, and has been in line with the mind-set of the fans. I doubt that changes when it comes time to make that final decision.
This is my main concern. What's been reported so far is that he's taking too long to make decisions. When the pads go on that will be more apparent and will also put him and the team at risk. So long as the game has slowed down for him and he's making decisions fast enough I have no problem w/him starting but I hope they don't put him and the team at risk.
Pretty much what I think. If KC beats out MS for the season start and the Jets keep winning it will prolong MS's inevitable inheritance of the starting QB job. But, winning is good. Chad, had his chance when Vinnie wasn't doing good. KC had his chances when Chad was either injured or not doing well. I do agree with the team support issues at the time of KC taking the field, but he remains a bit of a question mark in a lot of people's minds. If he does the same types of things he has done in the past, but now, with a good unit around him, he has to take ownership.
Maybe. But who's to say that CS gets to make the decision alone here. Woody may have different ideas. Or yes, even Tannenbaum. I think that was Tucker's point, he wasn't talking about coaches in the Jets' case.
You raise a good point. The scary part about that is, if Ryan is forced to use Sanchez from the get-go, Ryan will take the heat for 'his decision' to go with Sanchez and people will begin to turn on him. If Woody wants to have a successful team like he preaches on the team Yearbook, PSL booklets, etc. He'll leave the assessment to the coaches and personnel that actually attend practices and deal with Sanchez/Clemens directly. But what do I know...I care about football and not so much the business side of it.
Coaches coach, GMs GM, and Owners Own. If what you say were to happen, especially this year, we are doomed.
"It is hard for me to imagine that a young quarterback with only 16 college starts can beat out a guy going into his fourth season working with offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. Alas, it doesn't really matter. As soon as their production appears to be even close to comparable in the eyes of the Jets front office, Sanchez will be taking the snaps. It has already been predetermined." Well, of course this will be so. All the PSLs will not have been sold by September and there will be a need for one final push to get it all done. Starting Sanchez provides that last, final spark of hope this fall to get all the rest of the money in the house where it belongs. So what if Sanchez falls flat on his face by December? That's not the important thing around here. Let's make sure we know what our fucking priorities are, okay? And that includes you, Coach Ryan, so do what you're told and start Sanchez.
If they look pretty much the same in camp it'd be stupid to not go with Sanchez. Experience would be valuable to him, plus the good run game and potentially good D will make the transition easier. If Clemens loses/ties a third straight TC battle he is obviously only backup material.
If both play similarly in TC and Preseason, that's all the more reason Clemens shouldn't start; if he's in his 4th year in the same system, he should be outplaying an inexperienced rookie, else he shouldn't be playing at all.
Winning is going to sell the PSL's. They are better off winning with Clemens than losing with Sanchez when it comes to putting asses in the seats.
the ideal scenario entails KC starting and thriving as the starter this year....raising his stock....while Sanchez sits and learns. Then we trade Clemens for a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft or something along those lines. The 2010 draft is projected to have quite the talent pool. Clearly...if KC shits the bed....then this scenario is moot. However...this would be our best case scenario, IMO.
Thanks, MB, since this succintly states what imo should be the understanding of all Jet fans concerning this situation. The way to maximize the team's situation is as indicated, a point the OP's article does not consider. It is NOT merely to enhance Clemens's trade value. It is the combination of that objective with an understanding of the benefit of allowing Sanchez to sit and learn.
The funniest thing ever would be: KC plays well this year, we franchise him, we trade him and next year Sanchez sucks... that would be atrocious :S Anyways I really hope KC plays and next year we trade him for a 2nd... it would be best for everyone... for him, for the team and ultimately for Sanchez as well... But let's remember we are not New England so it prob won't happen
KC is an unrestricted free agent after the season. The only thing we can get is a compensatory draft pick, unless we franchise him.
