Stallworth gets 30 days for killing a guy

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  1. GBA

    GBA Well-Known Member

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    Because how good a player has anything to do with anything. And I understand driving under the influence should be vilified, but calling him a murderer is fucking retarded. Clearly it wasn't his intent to kill anyone. I'm not by any means defending dui, but the victim walked in front of Stallworth when Stallworth had the right of way. This could have just as easily have happened if he was sober. DUI punishments in general should be harsher but, in this case, his sentence was more than fitting of the crime.

    Exactly.
     
  2. VickBlows

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    That fucker shouldn?t have been J walking?its hard enough keeping an eye out for the cops when you?re driving shit hammered and now you?re expected to prepare for J walkers?
     
  3. GBA

    GBA Well-Known Member

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    I know, right. People act like the man wasn't a criminal.
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think VB was sympathizing with him.
     
  5. CJLang

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    Certainly not sticking up for a guy who killed someone after drinking, and 30 days seems extremely paltry...

    But I don't get the Vick comparison. Stallworth made a very bad life decision by drinking and then driving and accidentally killing a man, which is terrible.

    Vicks acts were premeditated. He knowingly fought, then killed dogs for sport.
     
  6. coorslightcans

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    holy frikken shit dudes is the legal system fucked up or what? vick and o.j got more for less. sign plaxico now his gun charge will only be 3 days.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    OJ was convicted for killing his wife?? that's news to me.

    what he got convicted for he is serving the proper sentence
     
  8. plinko

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    It really depends on the local laws where it happens. Now we know South Florida has pretty lenient DUI manslaughter laws if you: don't flea the scene, tried not to hit the dude, called the police and are not pissed drunk when they arrive.

    Regarding Plaxico. The rumor is Plaxico refused to plea to a deal that had actual jail time and the DA for the city wouldn't do that. So now he's gotta go before a Grand Jury. He's likely going to do more time than 30 days because he's stupid.

    Regarding Vick. Vick got convicted for bankrolling an interstate dog fighting operation. Not for dog fighting or killing dogs.
     
  9. Mambo9

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    "Jay Feely 06/16/2009 11:15 PM ET
    Any action that robs a life has a butterfly effect on so many other lives. This is not the case with dogs or inanimate objects."

    Feely is already opening up to the idea of signing M. Vick :p
     
  10. jkgrandchamp

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    Living in Sacramento for years now I have grown to like Donte but that doesnt excuse what he did . Donte does alot for Grant High School and the Del Paseo Heights community . That is probally why he got off so easy . Besides his millions which he could buy his way out of anything .
    But also the Florida law states that even if he was over the limit because the other party was paritialy at fault Jay - Walking . Donte got a light sentance.Basically all he had to do was prove dude crossed illegally
     
  11. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    He had the right of way, he tried to avoid the accident, he called 911, he took full responsability for his actions. WTF do you want. He got what any normal person would get under those circumstances.

    People make mistakes and there are huge consequences. This guy clearly is going to be living with this for the rest of his life.
     
  12. GreenMachine

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    If it were you or me, we would have gotten worse..

    Check this out:
    http://www.floridaduilawyerblog.com/2008/01/eighteen_year_old_boy_receives.html
    EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD BOY RECEIVES 24 YEAR SENTENCE FOR DUI MANSLAUGHTER.

    A Palm Beach County boy who was 17 at the time of the offense received a 24-year sentence in Palm Beach County this week after pleading to the charge of DUI. Daniel Espinoza will be close to 40 by the time he is released (considering good time and gain time reductions). The incredibly harsh sentence followed pleas by the boy’s parents to show leniency. Circuit court Judge Gary Sweet, who presided over the matter, was not affected by the boy’s age, his lack of significant criminal history, or strong family connections. Based on my experience, a DUI manslaughter case paralleling the same facts and circumstances generally carries a maximum of a 10-year sentence in exchange for a plea of no contest, regardless of the person’s age. DUI manslaughter cases are never easy. It is almost impossible to avoid sympathizing with the victim’s family as well as the defendant’s family. The sentence for this individual, however, is simply outrageous. To state that this sentence is excessive would be an understatement. If I was counsel on this case I would already be preparing my motion for mitigation of sentence. Daniel Espinoza has accepted responsibility for his actions in pleading no contest to the charge. I am not disagreeing that he should be penalized. Two people were killed as a result of his drinking and driving and it is well understood that pleas to DUI homicides carry prison sentences. Nonetheless, 24 years for an 18 year old seems to shock the conscience.
     
  13. Mr Electric

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    ...bet that kid can't catch a football
     
  14. NDmick

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    ^^ He is not a millionaire with millions more invested into him by a billion dollar industry.

    but that does suck. 24 years for an accident as an 18 year old kid.
     
  15. GBA

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    You'd be surprised. People get lighter sentences for similar crimes all the time and many don't even involve prison time. It works on a case by case basis.. the prosecutor and family of the victim knew the details better than anyone and they are content with the outcome. Him being rich only meant he could afford a great attorney and specialists; it's typically the insurance company who pays the big bucks, not the defendant.
     
  16. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I guess you missed the one right under that where a DUI lead to 2 people killed and no jail time 10 years probation.


     
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  17. GreenMachine

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    I did not miss it..I was pointing out the inconsistency.
     
  18. Cellar-door

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    yes but even in the article you quoted the article is about how wildly aberrant the ruling in that case is from the norm.
    Though looking up the case it is 2 counts as 2 people died, and he was clearly entirely at fault as he forced another car off the road while trying to make an illegal pass. The biggest difference in the plea deals was that Espinoza is serving the 2 12 year terms consecutively, and he will have to apply for parole rather than structuring it as part of the deal. Mostly it means he had a bad lawyer as he pled guilty in open court rather than negotiating a joint recommendation with the prosecutor. Also it means he had a judge who gave no leniency for the guilty plea. I bet the kid makes parole pretty quick, he may even appeal to have the sentence reduced, which isn't unlikely either.
     
  19. plinko

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    Sounds like someone's a lawyer.
     
  20. GatorGar

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    Good thing it was a person he hit, and not a dog.
     

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