you guys, like us, also had one of the easiest schedules in the league. also chad didnt play amazing during the season he just played well enough not to lose you guys games. i put most of ur credit to the running game and the wildcat. but like i said in my other post. other then him being an everyother year guy. he can not win the big game. dont get be wrong he will when regular season games. but those big games he cant when. such as the playoff game.
dont forget not only did we take ryan but he is the man who made that defense what it is. he is the one who made those guys who they are today. i agree and totally expect the jets to have better Ds then both of those teams with the talent we have.
I see, so Chad is only supposed to be "amazing" or hes what? A failure? A loser? A bad QB? What? Miami could only play the schedule they were given, nevertheless they still have to win those games. And might I remind you Jet fans the Jets schedule was basically the same schedule as Miamis and Jet fans were thinking they had the best team in football around week 8. So I really don't understand how the schedule is so insignificant for the Dolphins but it made the Jets almsot the best team in football. As for the Wildcat, it's a formation it's a scheme. It only made up about 6% of our total offense last year, how is it that you so called expert fans can't seem to undertand this? Miami used it, but only about 5 times per game and Miami Avg between 45 and 55 offensive plays a game. You people really need to work on your lack of of football knowledge.
I decided to investigate Chads playoff history just to see how true this opinion was of "CHADS" failures in post season. I wanted to see if Chad was really as Bad as Jet fans claim (rolling eye's) or if there was some validity to their claims. You'll notice in red are the numbers of the QB's Chad faced in those playoff games, I did this intentionally to see if Chads numbers were about the same, better or worse than the other teams QB's and as you'll see, his numbers were alwasy about the same, sometimes better sometimes worse. But not so different one way or the other. I will start with the most recent and work my way back. 2008 wildcard game VS the Ravens (loss) Chad Pennington: 25/38 252 yards 1 TD 4 int's Joe Flacco: 9/23 135 yards 0 TD's/ 0 int's * just for the record in that game, Chad was sacked 3.5 times Ronnie Brown: 12 att 19 yards Ricky Williams: 4 att 17 yards L.Polite: 3 att 15 yards Patrick Cobbs: 1 att 1 yard Miami rushed for a total of 52 yards in that game. Baltimore dominated Miami's offense both running and passing, Chad was not the only player responsible for that loss. 2006 Wildcard VS Pats (loss) Chad Pennington: 23/40 300 yards 1 TD/ 1 int Tom Brady: 22/34 212 2 TD's/ 0 int's 2004 Wildcard VS Chargers (win) Chad Pennington 23/33 279 yards 2 TD's/ 0 int's Drew Brees: 31/42 212 yards 2 TD's /0 int's 2004 Divisional playoffs VS Pittsburgh (loss) Chad Pennington 21/33 182 yards 0TD's/ 1 int Big Ben: 17/30 181 yards 1 TD/ 2 int's 2002 Wildcard VS Indy (win) Chad Pennington 19/25 222 yards 3 TD's/ 0 int's P. Manning: 14/31 137 yards 0TD's/ 2 int's 2002 Divisional VS Oakland (loss) Chad Pennington 21/47 183 yards 1 TD/ 2 int's Rich Gannon: 20/30 283 yards 2 TD's/ 1 int Chad wasn't the reason the Jets couldn't advance deep into the playoffs. Chad also had two wins in those playoff games. So Chad can win big games. Jet fans have convinced themselve everything that was wrong with the Jets is allll Chad, well the numbers don't support that opinion. Chad played well enough in every game "except the Ravens game" to win those games if the Jets had played better as a team and the coaching had been better. Look at the numbers of Big Ben. The guy has 2 AFC Championships and 2 SB's and his numbers are always awful, yet the Streelers win despite his numbers. So it isn't the QB, it's the way the entire team plays, and that comes down to coaching. The Jets not winning playoff games is more about who was coaching them than it was about who their QB was. The facts are there the numbers are there. Chad played as well as the the QB's he faced and still didn't win. It's obviously more than Chads responsibility to win big games. The year before Chad took over as the Jets starting QB Vinny Tetaverde was their QB and they faced the Raiders in the playoffs, Vinny Tetaverde had a great playoff game, Vinny Testaverde: 26/40 for 268 yards 3 TD's/ 0 int's Rich Gannon: 23/29 294 yards 2 TD's/ 0 int's Do you remember the final score? It was 38-24 Oakland. A game where your QB had a great game and the QB he faced had a great game, but what was the final result? You were blown out! Chad wasn't even on the field. Jet fans refuse to look their teams situation honestly, they would rather act like everything that's wrong with their team can be fixed with just a simple QB change, yet through all the numbers and all the results "INCLUDING adding a HOF QB" to their roster the results are always the same, yet somehow everything the Jets couldn't do in the Playoffs was Chads fault? You people are clueless about this sport, you can't possibly blame everything wrong with the Jets on one person, but you try awful hard.
Box score stats are a Chad-Lover's best friend. That's the left holster. The right holster is QB rating.
:rofl: Here come the stats in Chad's Playoff games vs the opposing QBs stats... We've never seen those before, never discussed them here before. Poor, poor Chad. He just never has the supporting cast around him in big Playoff games. He's undoubtedly the unluckiest QB in the history of the NFL. But he's got one helluva QB Rating and Completion Percentage.
Tell me, how do you judge Brady? Wins? Numbers? How? The Pats started a QB last year that hadn't played a football game in years, yet he won 11 games as a first time starter. Why do you think a QB he in no way shape or form won more games as a first time starter than a HOF QB named Brett Favre? There has to be a reason, what is it? Since you're offended by people using numbers, what reason could it be? How did basically a rookie QB who never started a game before in his life outperform in every way HOF QB Brett Fvare? HOW?????????????????? I really want to hear this answer, don't use numbers, since it seems to be some sort of crime to do so, explain to me how Cassell played better then Favre with far less experience.
randy moss, wes welker, a solid line, and some good coaching come to mind. favre being old and injured and having a failure of a head coach also plays a part. what any of this has to do with you slobbering on chads balls i do not know.
Do JETS fans think Ryan will take a swing at one of his coaches this year? Are their odds on this kind of thing? Crowder is actually intelligent, he likes to play stupid...academically he was pretty sharp in school. Rex is a loud mouth and so is his daddy.....this is awesome!! The rivalry has been renewed.....(especially after we got the last punch in last year) Will Bart Scott be any good without Ray Lewis? Will Mark 'Dirty' Sanchez be any good? Will Ginn step up and take a hit like a man? You guys better watch out for Davone Bess by the way....he is lookin faaast this year Welcome to rebuilding Jets fans......
The thing about chad is that he may not throw alot of picks but he throws them at the most horrible times.....stats dont tell the whole story watching the games does
So here we have it, no matter what facts are placed in front of you, no matter how you see Chads numbers against the QB's he faced and no matter what the results of those facts and how anyone but Jet fans can look at those same numbers and decide with a reasonable amount of common sense that Chad wasn't the reason the Jets didn't win thos playoff games, you're going to continue your ignorant bias hate? Well at least I see what this is about. I really though before I did this that I would find Chads numbers to be awful, that he was indeed the reason the Jets lost. But that's not at all what I found, infact from what I can see, Chad wasn't the reason the Jets lost at all. Jet fans are simply bitter. I can live with that. I can live with the fact that you people don't understand the game of football and all you want to do is wallow in your own self pitty. No matter how hard you try, you'll never ever convince someone who understand this game that Chad was the reason the Jets didn't make strides in the playoffs, cause there simply isn't proof to support such an idiotic opinion. Myabe since this was so amusing to you, you can enlighten us as to how the Jets lost those playoff games, since the numbers aren't telling us anything. This pitty party explination should be good. "Sniff, sniff, oh well Chad didn't throw for 500 yards and 8 TD's...frikin loser, it's all his fault"!!!
Really, how was the coaching, is that part of Jets football or is Jets football just QB. Pennington drops back, he looks for Pennington. Pennintong throws the ball deep....Pennington caught it. Nice 25 yeard pass and catch from Penninton to Pennington!!!! Did you see that late Blitz pickup by Pennington? If it weren't for that block by Pennington, Pennington would have been crushed. 1st and 10 on the 25 Pennington takes the snap from Pennington, he hands it to Pennington, Pennington looks for a hole...nice block by Pennington to free up Pennigton, Pennington at the 20...the 10...the 5...TOUCHDOWN PENNINGTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will Channing Crowder ever be recognized around the league? Will Chad Pennington make it thru this season without getting hurt? And in turn, will Henne or Pat White be any good? Will Ginn stop being such a bitch and take a hit for Christ' sake? You guys better watch out for David Clowney by the way...he's always been faaast and not on any defenses radars yet. Welcome back to reality Dolphins fans....
Oh I see, so when the Pats QB succeeds (no matter who it is), it's because he has a lot of talented people around him, but when Favre fails it's because of injuries and bad coaching, but when Pennington fails...it's just Pennington. Gotcha. Gotta love the mindset of Jet fans.
lmao you are officially the biggest moron i never said it was all his fault but there is no way he should be clean from any blame lol
You seriously have no clue what you're talking about. There are so many games where the Jets were down by 2, 3, 4, 6 points and we needed a drive to either tie a game or win it. And tho you look at those stats and you don't see how truly bad he was, what they don't show you is how often and terribly he would throw an INT at the most crucial moments of a game. That's Chad in a nutshell. Yes. He will have QB rating of 105.3, 213yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, but the telling stat is the interception and when it happened. That's what Chad has been. Those other times when he just looked atrocious (a la Ravens game last year) was when he faced Top 5, Top 7 Defenses. As a Dolphins fan, Chad will get you thru a Playoff game or two. But you'll have to face a top D to get past the hump and that's when Chad will come up empty. Eventually, when you go thru it enough times, you'll grow tired of making Wildcard or Divisional Rounds and coming up empty. It gets old. If you're happy with that, then you're in for Cloud 9. If you want to see your team win a Championship, get ready to be disappointed.
Cassell played smarter, turned the ball over less, and was a lot more mobile - among other things - than Favre. Brady won a Superbowl throwing to Troy Brown and Deon Branch (who, since leaving the Pats has done nothing). Brady has all the talent in the world and puts the team and the game on his shoulders and wins it. Pennington needs the stars aligned to get 11 wins. And then he faces a tough D in the Playoffs and loses. With the Jets, Pennington went to the Playoffs with talented players and lost. Last year, with the Phins, Pennington went to the Playoffs without talented Offensive players (WRs) and lost. What's the common denominator here?
