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  1. MBGreen

    MBGreen Banned

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    pure comedy.
     
  2. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Once again, your streak of pointing out the obvious is in tact. There is no way to defend the DeAngelo Hall move and barely a way to mitigate it. Just stop.
     
  3. rmagedon

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    Well, let's see..and this is off the top of my head here.

    Javon Walker - You said yourself he's a Pro-Bowl caliber player. Hasn't played up to that hype yet. Money given has to be questioned if he doesn't match the kind of production he had with Green Bay and 1-year stint with the Broncos. What have the Raiders done to fix this? Drafted another WR projected to go in the middle to late 1st round with the 7th overall pick. However, he posted an awesome 40 time but has questionable hands at best. We'll see if this was the best way to correct their WR situation.

    Jamarcus Russell - Going into his 3rd year in the league. This is when he's going to have to put up good to great numbers. As of right now, he's not looking like he's going to pan out and that is troubling considering he's earning 1st overall monies. In order to silence his critics, Russell is going to have to put more than a few games on his back and help carry the Raiders to wins in those close games and come-from-behind wins. Raiders correction: Jeff Garcia. You could be going somewhere with that signing, because Russell is just god-awful.

    Michael Huff - Where the hell is he? You said he was bound to be DROY...you were wrong. You said he had the potential to be a future Pro Bowler...you were also wrong. He hasn't played up to the standards of earning 7th overall pick money. Raiders correction: Wilson who got post-Super Bowl monies and got cut after one year. (Probably couldn't run a sub 4.3-40). Sucks for the Raiders, this is awesome for Wilson. Now they drafted a kid projected to go in the 7th round in the 2nd. We'll see if this is the answer to the Huff situation in Oakland.

    Which brings me to...

    Gibril Wilson - Got a shit load of cash, did well against the run, but Al Davis hated his 40-time and "coverage" skills. So, he gets cut the year after. Raiders correction: See above.

    Fabian Washington - Got traded out of Raiderland. Another 1st round bust for the Raiders. You gave him 23rd pick overall money and then shipped him out to Baltimore. Hmmm...seems to be doing okay in Baltimore. Again, it must suck to be the Raiders. Raiders correction: DeAngelo Hall is the answer here. Perfect 1-2 CB combination that will unleash havoc on the NFL wide receivers. You don't understand...the Raiders simply CAN'T-LOSE!

    DeAngelo Hall:...I don't even know what to say.

    Randy Moss trade - Awesome job. You guys got John Bowie in the 4th for a Future Hall of Famer. How's he doing by the way? Is he starting to come around? Is he looking like that future All-Pro, All-Team, Hall of Fame corner? Raiders correction: Javon Walker isn't panning out yet, and DHB has yet to play a down at the NFL level. We'll see how this ends up.
     
  4. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I like this post so much I want to have sex with it.
     
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    Poor Deangelo. His proclivities and strengths change every year. No wonder he can't find a home in the NFL.

    Some other gems from Joe's response to the trade last year:

    It's being brought back...for different reasons.

    For the record, Jenkins, Faneca, and Richardson would in no way contribute to our team last season, while Javon Walker and Deangelo Hall were part of the Raiders' future. Great stuff.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    :rofl::rofl:

    King Al Davis - building castles out of dogshit. These are some nice quotes you're giving us to rub your nose in next offseason, jeaux.

    "Hes building a dynasty in the NFl."

    "We will see if Raiders arrive this year or next but this time the run will be alot longer."

    Funny stuff, man. Are they taking a Greyhound or a moped?
     
  7. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    this is why they stop prizefights
     
  8. jets2884

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    That is the post of the day....i dont care what anyone says....lol lets see how raiderjoe spins this one up lol
     
  9. Raiderjoe

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    To be fair, Javon Walker what happened in Vegas did derail his season before it ever started. The guys was no where close to healthy and only look great against Jet secondary. The guy took a big big payday to stay with raiders. Lets see where he is. Raiders aren't counting on him or any Wr to have a big 2009. Chaz schilens and johnnie Lee higgins( will be on alot of people breakout players list for 2009 ) proved they have a bright future in this league in rather limited playing time.

    Again in 2009 NO Raider Wr going to put up big numbers. First they aren't going to get the chance . Raiders are predominately going to be a run first team. The thing is you try and load up to stop the run, you open yourself to giving up six points very quickly.

    First off this is really russell second year(as he missed too much time his rookie year) It basically was a wasted year. Second Raiders aren't asking J Russell to carry this Raider offense. Raiders will defintely be a top five running team next year(again only injuries last year prevented that) . They will rely heavily on the running game and that running game will set up the passing game. Just like the Wr speed Raiders have , to attack a secondary deep , will open up the running attack. Russell showed trewmendously improvement in the second half . Threw in the high sixtyt percent and showed alot of improvements in alot of areas. With the upgrade of the oline and WRs(last year his Wr corp was severly depleted) he has alot more weapons to utilize.

    YEs M Huff hasn't live up to expectations. Basically only thing he has done is pretty much take out the top tes. Still your getting top 7 money you have to be an allround Safety. His tackling has been spotty. (putting it kindly) Hes not starting but his ability to match up to TEs and he will have a relief role in oakland.

    NOW Raiders plan is to eventually have Tyvon Branch 6'0 205 4.35 and Michael Mitchell 6'1 225 4.43(has run sub 4.4) become the starting safeties. Probably not happening next year as you don't want that much inexperience starting.

    SO what you get is Eugene Hiriam 6'2 205 will be the Free safety and Tyvon Branch and Michael Mitchell will battle it out for SS.

    IF you saw Tyvon Branch on special teams You know hes a very reliable open field tackler and a physical one at that.
    It safe to assume he will give up everything Gibril wilson gave in run support but will be alot better matchup man to man versus the Tes. Reason Raiders like Mitchell so much because he has man to man skills(was a CB early in his college career) /.; When this kid hits people he knocks them into tommorrow.


    Which brings me to...

    Again I alluded to this already. YEs Gibril wilson had a ton of tackles( looks great on paper) but he wasn't that reliable of a tackler and made no diffrence making plays. He just proved that you can't use tackles as a stat, to justify how good a player is. For all his tackles none were very big. I don't know if AFc West running backs are higher quaklity than Nfc east, but alot times those Rbs just ran him over. Miami dolphins will regret this signing.

    Raiders could get rid of a Fabian washington because they had a CB Stanford routt 6'1 195 who was just as fast as Washington( 4.26 to 4.28), but was alot bigger, and more physical tackler. He was just a better cover Cb. Stanford routt put up the second fastest three cone drill in the histgory of the combine. The three cone drill alot of scout put high importance on the Cb position. As a CB your job is to mirror the Wr movements. Routt proved he dosen't lose anything out of his breaks with that three cone drill . That is alot more important than F washington who had more straight line speed. Chris johnson 6'1 200 proved to be everything deangelo hall was suppose to be and is a perfect fit in raiders system. So Raiders have two stud Cbs N asomugha and chris johnson. Really don't lose anything if routt has to replace one of them on outside. Routt just lkike Raiders other Cbs ,is not as comfortable playing inside.

    Raiders defense you must have Cbs that can play man to man defense. atlethically Hall has the skills to play in that system, just couldn't play in it. He was insurance if the Raiders were to lose asomugha in freeagency. Hall proved he could play in raiders system and asomugha probably would have been traded. Hall busted and raiders had to sign Asomugha.


    Again randy Moss trade was all about Money. Raiders couldn't afford to keep Randy moss at 10 million dollars per year . R Moss was not restructing his contract to help the raiders. (Raiders needed the money to sign theire franchise QB) So in the few instances the player had total control of the situation. raiders had to cut him or get a fourth round pick. Of course your going to take what you can get. Again Raiders can develope a Bowie slowly. Bowie like all Raiders cbs can fly was big east champion sprinter. Bowie battling with aliot of similiar players 6'4 200 4.33 darrick Brown.

    DHB is not catching 80 balls next season. He dosen't have to do. With his speed deep to stretch the field, he helping the running game tremendously. All he has to do is catch a couple deep balls and he opens up the whole offense.
     
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  10. rmagedon

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    I like this post. Joey Porter was on a decline? Wow. He sure showed it last year for the Dolphins.

    Who the hell is Kareem Harris? I looked him up on NFL.com and couldn't find any player at all named Kareem Harris. C'mon Jeaux, even TampaBayJetFan knew who the hell is on the Jets team, and he's a freaking moron.

    But I do agree with the last paragraph. Those players did improve the Raiders. From 4-12 to 5-11 certainly is an improvement, no matter how anyone tries to slice it. So, I can't argue that. You were most certainly correct Jeaux.
     
  11. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    OK, OK, I simply cannot help myself...Haaaaaaaaaaaaah. :lol:
     
  12. rmagedon

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    Awesome. Thanks for explaining why all these players have not lived up to the money they've gotten so far. Say maybe next time, you would reconsider comparing how much money the Jets have spent on FA's 'on the decline' and Top 10 draft picks who haven't earned it in recent years (give Gholston at least 3 years Jeaux before u can say he didn't earn it). The Raiders have burnt a shitload of money on FA's that either flat out sucked, don't fit their system (even tho they thought they did), or have officially been labeled a bust.

    I can already tell you don't show that much confidence in Russell. You're expecting the Raiders offense to shelter him from winning you games down the stretch. Sorry Jeaux, but this league doesn't follow your formula (see the last 5 years of your posts for evidence). Russell will be forced to carry his team to victory and I'm sure you're as confident as I am that he will fail to do so. Sorry Joe. Your only hope is for Russell to "get hurt" and Garcia to replace him.
     
  13. SyracuseJet

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    You are so fucking out of touch...I often wondered if the ARC provided it's patients with computers....Apparently they do.
     
  14. Raiderjoe

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    Like the jets played a very soft schedule, the dolphins schedule for the most part was the same. Joey Porter did have a bounce back year against some of the worst olines, with a tougher schedule(better olines) he probably won't have anywhere close to the year he had in 2008. He is on the downside of his career, Like with faneca, Steelers know when toi get rid of player on downside.

    Its Kwame harris. Kwame harris has the most athlethic feet but didn't have the mindset to play LT. If I was the raiders I would have brought him back to play RG. Well its allk water under the dam.
     
  15. SyracuseJet

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    Water under the dam? Shouldn't the water be against the dam? Picture for reference....

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    You were looking for Water Under The Bridge. Another reference.

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  16. NJrocket24

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    Clearly the only thing holding back the raiders is...Al Davis doesn't coach. THAT is the missing piece.

    Give him the headset and its 19-0.

    40 times don't mean shit when the ball is snapped. You think Ashmouga says oh shit Randy Moss has a 4.232324151 40 and mine is 4.2323234512, I can't cover him. No he says i'll man the fuck up and do what it takes to succeed.

    Its you vs. the guy in front of you, nothing else matters.
    If you had the intelligence capability to learn, i'd teach you this fact. It is not who is faster better stronger on the chart. Its who wants it more that minute, right there on the field and who is going to do what it takes to man up and win. Who has the extra drive in the tank to be a winner.

    By not awknowledging this fact, it is clear to me that you have never played an organized sport at a high level. I doubt they even let you in the building at the special olympics.
     
  17. rmagedon

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    If the design of Hoover Dam was left up to Raiderjoe, parts of Arizona and Nevada would've been fucked.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    Then who changes the Urinal cakes?
     
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    Clearly, you don't understand. The Raiders don't follow no cliche. They undercut the establishment and rock the foundation. SPEED KILLS. SPEED KILLS. SPEED KILLS. They're going to be like a flow that you thought you could hold back but BAM, it just takes you down. Oh, it also applies in that a dam which allowed water under it would have to be built by a senile old retard.
     
  20. jets2884

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    I might be a lil off topic but uve said multiple times now that the Jets do good only when we have a soft schedule and do bad with a tougher schedule but i must say....whats Oaklands excuse that it cant even win with a soft schedule?
     

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