uh..the whole thread is about making a Favre rule..what is it you don't get again? I never said they were bitching that he left us..I said they are bitching about him..in this case bitching about him changing his mind on retirement.
there should be a rule put in place to protect a players contract too! oh wait thats right they are continuously signing guys to heavy back loaded contracts and then cutting them with 2 years left. its one of the few, very very few caveats that the players have in the owner controlled nfl.
no player can retire and become a free agent to sign with the team of their preference simply by retiring. so why would the NFL need a new rule when they already have an existing rule preventing what you are proposing from already occurring?
Hmm...let's take a look: You imply that people shouldn't bitch about him because his departure from the team left the money with which we paid our free agents. How could that be used to placate anything other than bitching that he left us? Saving money by having Brett leave, which was fantastic BTW, had nothing to do with the original post.
The problem with what you are saying is that the Packers moved on without him. They spent money that ate up his salary. Then he comes back, and bam over Cap. So what do you do? There should be something that forbids this type of behavior. It is bad for the game and league. I don't know what, but it is unfair to the team front office. However, I see your point and also agree with that. Perhaps there should be a dead line for deciding to come back for the following season. I would say before the draft starts. JMHO This would reduce the chance of a player screwing a team with the Cap situation.
The Jets signed Thomas Jones to a front-loaded contract and he's now holding out for more money in the thin years. It works both ways.
Bingo. A player is either contractually obligated to a team or he is not. He can retire and remove the active obligations due him under the contract however he can't retire and remove his obligations to the team under the contract. Favre got the Vikings to trade him and the Jets to release him. That's how he has moved around. There's no way to protect a team from their own actions.
I really don't care if Favre plays in Minn...my main concern is that we won't get any draft pick(s), we also had an opportunity to a) trade Chad for possible picks b) trade him out of the division/conference.......
yes but the team has to agree to redo his contract, they can release him and there isnt shit he can do about it. they are lucky the cap works the way it does or there would be many more guys getting cut every year. if the bonuses werent pro rated half these guys wouldnt see the second half of their contract.
so it really isnt in any way shape or form the same. btw thomas jones has only missed non mandatory workouts. when he starts missing things that are mandatory then you can start bitching about him "holding out".
Again, though, it's important to note that a reinstatement has to be approved by the commissioner's office. Goodell essentially works for the owners. In the end, he does what is best for their bottom line. He refused to act on Favre's reinstatement until he saw the two sides discuss the steps that would be taken once Favre was reinstated. It's not like a player can solely dictate if and when he returns to the league.
i think someone asked about where he got the xray idea from. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4152783 turk has been a long time poster here and some of you guys are acting like he is just some pos off the street. if the guy is wrong about it let him know... there is no need to demean him.
In order for such a rule like that to go through, it would have to be done through collective bargaining and the player's union would want a ton from the owners in return to agree to that type of clause, the owners would not be willing to give up so much for this type of situation, which I can't recall having happened before.
Why did the Jets give Favre an unconditional release? IMO that was a huge mistake by management. Now he's free to sign with another team and the Jets get no compensation..HUGE MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!
I think you misunderstand the situation. There is already enough protection in the system for this issue. After BF retired he was not allowed to play for anyone other than the Jets. Thats all the protection the Jets need or deserve. Then the Jets decided to release BF because Tanny and Woody have boners for BF and he asked them to. There is also the fact that if Mark Sanchez gets a contract normal for a fifth pick and BF decides to play then BF's $13M salary would put the Jets over the cap, forcing them to release BF or cut another player. So BF had something he could threaten the Jets with and there's the man crush issue on top of that. There is no need to change the current system. What happened is the Jets screwed up. That doesn't mean the league rules should change. A better change would be for Jet management to embrace heterosexuality.
im not bitching about favre leaving.... yes ok the team doesnt have to grant the release... but then they are stuck with the cap number which in this cause would have been 13 million against the cap....so realistically the team does have to release the player... favre had full intention of coming back this year and faked another retirement to get out of his contract to do so....the point of a contract is that you are with that team...if you are going to play just ask for your release or a trade...or just honor the contract...
I'm not even saying I'm unhappy with the outcome for the Jets. I'm simply saying that this is not an ethical way of conducting himself to get what he wants....and it should be further prevented going forward... thats all im saying
Who the hell is gonna give anything up for him...esp knowing that if he came back his cap number would suffocate us