Actually, I don't even "love" Star Wars. I just like it. Well, at least Episodes 3-6. The first two sucked a lot of anus. (My oldest son loves Star Wars. He knows things that I'm like "Huh? What are you talking about?" Anyway, there's never been anything appealing to me about Star Trek. It's just futuristic, and I'm not much of a sci-fi fan at all. I'm really not a big movie/tv watcher to begin with. I've only really even started using a tv for more than sports and video games in the past few years because my wife wants to waste lots of time in front of the tube. I'm a reader. I can sit and read for hours on end. I've never seen loads of "must see" movies. I still hear shit from my brother that I've never seen any of the Godfathers. *shrug* No desire really. Mostly just a little curiosity at this point about what I've been missing. I'm always let down though. As an example, I recently saw 40 Year Old Virgin (like a month ago) and I really didn't think it was all that funny.
Actually other than the fact both series take place on a space station there isn't much similarity between Babylon 5 and DS9, IMO. I liked Babylon 5 but it got too sappy at times and sounded too much like a self help book, for my tastes. And the way they ended the series was way too predictable. It was a really creative, cutting edge show, then the last season it seemed liked the writers ran out of ideas.
I'm going to see it Sunday; I can't wait. After seeing the previews I'm surprised it got such good reviews.. the trailer made it look like all that happens is a bunch of stuff blows up in space. Whatever, I'm seeing it regardless. I used to love star trek, but I stopped watching sometime before Enterprise aired, when everything got stale. This really brings out the nerd in me.
Alio, what movies have you seen that you did like? I might be able to recommend something to your liking; I've stuffed a lot of popcorn in my face over the years.
Yeah, the two get grouped together unfairly. Star Wars is really just a Western. Heroes, outlaws, a dastardly sheriff, showdowns, duels, etc. Plus it's not really science fiction, it's fantasy; the Force is just magic. (Minus the nonsense about midochlorians. Ugh.) Star Trek is pure sci-fi. Like all good science fiction, Star Trek takes the natural laws of the world as we know it, adds a scientific develpment, invention, etc. and examines the effect that would have on the human condition, philosophy, etc.
Heh, that's a tough question. I barely remember 99% of the movies I've seen in my life. When I say I'm not a movie person, I mean I'm not a movie person. Some things I've liked are the Bourne trilogy (woohoo #4 coming!) Superbad (probably the funniest movie I've ever seen,) the Star Wars movies but only the original 3 and Revenge of the Sith, the Lord of the Rings movies were okay, the Matrix trilogy (even though Keanu Reeves is terrible,) Dodgeball (probably the second funniest movie to me,) Role Models was funny too, oh and I can't forget all the Die Hards that didn't have the Mac Douche in them, and the two Batman movies with Bale in them (though the first Keaton one is still a favorite.) Trust me, it's extremely rare that I'm impressed by a movie. My brother has a wall full of them and my brother-in-law is an aspiring director. They're truly both movie lovers, and so is my wife. They suggest things all the time and when I do occasionally watch one I'm basically like "Meh" at the end. Drives them all crazy. *shrug*
Star Trek is pure sci-fi? Really? It's the same hand waving as Star Wars, they just call it something technical instead of mystical. You'll never see a pure sci-fi movie because not many people are into that sort of thing and it wouldnt make any money. Which sort of speaks to Alio's point about not being a big television or movie fan. If you like genre or niche stuff you're much better off reading books , because it something is not already wildly popular there's no way that a company is going to spend millions of dollars to make something they're not sure that people will like. There are a few exceptions but for the most part when you're watching a movie or TV you have to lower your expectations accordingly when you realize that they're playing to the kinds of people that eat up crap like Wild Hogs or Paul Blart Mall Cop.
I see your point, but there's a subtle distinction. Think Shelley's Frankenstein and Stoker's Dracula. Monsters, undead, a whole lot of parallels. But Dracula is fantasy and Frankenstein is science fiction. It's not just "this scenario couldn't possibly happen and here's how we'll choose explain it." It's the narrative ends to which the suspension of disbelief is used toward that separate the genres. What would you say is a pure science fiction story?
Gee...A Hillary!phile that abhors Capt.Kirk (The manliest man....ever, and yes that include you Mike Tyson, and you Jack Bauer)..go figgr :rofl2:
Something that at least has some grounding, or is an extrapolation of actual science. Take the transporter on Star Trek, it might as well be magic. I'm actually not a big science fiction fan, since all the technical details and how things work aren't all that interesting to me, but I do think that this needs to be an integral part of the story for it to be considered science fiction. Just like in Star Wars, the setting in Star Trek is definitely science fiction but the stories and themes in many of the episodes are not dependant on this setting to work.
I think some of you are thinking way too much about some of these movies. They're supposed to be entertainment. A movie that's 100% based on facts is just a documentary I also disagree with the the science being unbelievable on Star Trek. I truly think one day we will see some of the things from these movies. I was just reading something the other day about researchers claiming that theoretically, the type of propulsion shown in Star Trek might be a possibility some day.
OK, off-topic, but I think you might really like Primer. Check it out if you can. Anyway, take a look at how each of these series are set-up. "Space, the Final Frontier..." It's the future, we're going to do what humans do, explore the frontier using new technology while we encounter different civilizations. Science fiction. "A long time ago, in a galaxy, far, far away..." Typical fairy tale intro. The prince and the princess set out to defeat the evil king with help from a pirate, a wizard, a magic sword and some superpowers. Fantasy.
