NFL.com's AFC East draft grades

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  1. The_W

    The_W Banned

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    Anybody seen this yet: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d8102bbe1/AFC-East-draft-grades?

    Both Woodson and Dukes gave us a C, while kissing the Pats' ass yet again giving them an A and an A+.

    And they seem to have a hard-on on Pat White for some reason saying his gonna wreak havoc with the Wildcat.

    Woodson justified his grade with claiming that we "put all our eggs in the same basket"...
     
  2. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    id give the pats an A as they have the luxury of being able to stockpile picks. i'd give the jets a b or b+ right now. they raped the browns in the trade for sanchez, but it won't matter if he stinks. in three years this could be seen as the draft that saved the franchise, making it an A+++++++++++++. It could also be one of the most disapointing drafts the team has ever had.
     
  3. MBGreen

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    Woodson is such a clown.....he's never had anything positive to say about the Jets.....ever.

    For years...Woodson's argument was that our QB position has been our crutch...and now that we've addressed it in the draft...."we've put all our eggs in one basket"......i can't believe Woodson collects a pay check.
     
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  4. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Woodson is a moron, and he?s bashing the Jets whenever given a chance, who cares about him?

    What I don?t get is, why every year, the Pats get so much props for their Draft, while they have been medicore at best for years now.
     
  5. KSJets

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    And hardly any of the their draft picks make the team or even contribute. Recently I mean.
     
  6. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Woodson got pancaked by Mike Haight back in the day, and he's hated the Jets ever since.

    Woodson did say that if Sanchez becomes a franchise QB, the draft is an A+.

    Interestingly enough, Mayock said on the last path to the draft - grades, winners and losers won't be known until 3 years from now.
     
  7. nyjetsrule

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    regardless of what you think of the draft, you absolutely have to admit we did that. I mean if sanchez flops miserably ( i dont think he will be horrible, but will he be a perrenial all-pro? IDK) this draft is worthless, unless either Greene or Slauson is has HOF career. but I seriously doubt we stole HOF talent in the third or the 6th, not saying it can't happen, but the odds are very long.

    In the end, unless Sanchez becomes a stud, this draft is going to recieve at best a C+ and if Greene isnt an above average powerback, the grade becomes a lot closer to an F. We did put our eggs in one basket, thats not debateable. However the same goes the other way, if Sanchez becomes a perrenial All-Pro, and Greene becomes that above average powerback, the grade is an automatic A+. It all depends on Sanchez however.
     
  8. MobiusOne28

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    Yeah. The Pats deserve an A+ in their ability to maneuver on draft day, but their picks overall have been a C at best in recent years.
     
  9. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    If you view it that way, there?s no way cou can judge this Draft right now.

    If you want to judge the Draft right now, you gotta see Sanchez as a potential Franchise-QB and Greene as a perfect compliment to Leon.
     
  10. nyjetsrule

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    I agree completely, I was just defending the opinion putting our eggs in a single basket. Sounded like the OP was trying to make the guy sound like an idiot for saying that, but i believe he is right.
     
  11. Jetaho

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    Grading the draft in a vacuum is pointless exercise. I think you have to grade the entire offseason to evaluate what the Jets did to improve the team.

    We drafted a potential franchise QB, a #1 RB, and a backup guard. Sheppard was acquired with a draft pick. Scott, Leonard, and Douglas were signed as free agents. We brought in a boatload of undrafted FAs, and several may stick. We lost some aging and fringe players.

    IMO, the team is better on paper for both the short term and the long term, so I believe our offseason has been a success thus far. With extra credit factored in, I give us a 116 out of 100.
     
  12. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Yeah, I think that?s actually a justified opinon. But Woodson is a moron notheless, and he doesn?t need anyone to make him sound like a idiot, he?s gets that done himself very well.
     
  13. Brien O'Ken

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    They always say you can't really grade a draft until 3 years have passed. With that in mind, how would you grade our draft in 2006? I think Brick has been a solid tackle and Mangold has been a superstar center. I guess the jury is still out on Clemens. Schlegel was a bust. I don't think Eric Smith ever showed much. Brad Smith has been good on ST, but not done much at WR. Leon has been our only big-time playmaker over the past few years and was a steal in the 4th round. The later round picks haven't done much. All in all, though, considering how great Mangold and Leon have been, you'd have to give the Jets FO an "A" for this draft I would think.
     
  14. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    due to Brick and Mangold's talent and projected longevity, the draft begins with a B+. With Leon being extremely explosive and a pro bowl talent, it becomes an A.

    Clemens is at this point a viable backup and Schlegel's bust doesn't put a dent on the overall grade.

    Brad Smith is a ST ace, which aren't easy to find. His ability to get down the field and prevent a return is important. Wallace Wright is equally good at doing so, I actually think he's better. Wright was signed as a UDFA in the same year, so he could almost count towards that draft.
     
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    I don't get it either. Everyone talked about how this was a pretty weak draft in terms of overall talent. So we go and get 2 (hopefully 3) guys that appear to be able to contribute in the near future, and the Pats trade down and trade down, accumulating a bunch of players in this weak draft class... yet the Jets are in question?

    Seems to me they were grading on "who drafted the most players" to me... which is total bs.
     
  16. xjets2002x

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    Draft grades need to be done after three years. Post-draft grades before anyone's ever done anything are absurd and ultimately, a waste of time.

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  17. xjets2002x

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    Here are some Kiper winners from '06:

    Jeremy Bloom will be a great pick once he shakes off the rust from being away from the game. Still, Bloom can help the Eagles in the return game this season.

    Getting WR Sinorice Moss in the second round was one of the best picks in the draft; he could be the deep threat the Giants' offense needs.-

    Kicker Stephen Gostkowski was a reach in the fourth round- Pro Bowl Kicker with an 85.6 Career Average

    First-round pick Joseph Addai (at No. 30) is a good blocking running back, but he is not all that dynamic running the ball- rushed for 1,000 yards at an excellent 4.8 clip as a rookie. Hampered by injuries of late, but has had 2 1,000 yard seasons out of his first 3.

    My favorite:"I thought I'd be higher on the Lions, but what concerned me was that they passed on Leinart."

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  18. GreenMachine

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    Some more gems from 2006:

    USA TODAY

    Arizona Cardinals

    Dennis Green & Co. have done it again. After Matt Leinart fell into the Cardinals' lap, they landed another big body for the O-line (Deuce Lutui) and a couple of prospects who could blossom into huge talents in TE Leonard Pope and DT Gabe Watson.



    New England Patriots

    Laurence Maroney was Bill Belichick's pick as the draft's best running back after Reggie Bush and successor to Corey Dillon. Chad Jackson was thought by many to be the best wide receiver in the draft. More help for Tom Brady.


    Best second-round pick: Chad Jackson. The Florida wide receiver, clocked at 4.32 in the 40-yard dash, was projected as a mid-first-round pick and the top wideout on many boards. He went to the New England Patriots in the 36th slot.

    Bad Moves: Ferguson will be an outstanding player for years to come, but Jets fans will regret that their team passed up on Matt Leinart.

    For the second year in a row, it seems as though Nick Saban came away with a solid draft class, even though he only had six choices to work with (one second-round choice was used on Daunte Culpepper). Safety Jason Allen, chosen No. 16 overall, will start right away and has Pro Bowl potential down the road.
     
  19. JetsUK

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    Pats are still getting credit for picking Brady in the 6th round (total fluke) from all those years ago.

    As for manouvering on the day, pretty much anyone can keep trading down and down if you are not in a very expensive top 10 pick situation if that is what they are minded to do, its not exactly difficult.
     
  20. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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