Angels @ Yankees, 4/30-5/3

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  1. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    Nah. Melancon is good. Robertson has a lot of promise, too.

    Even Albaladejo, for all of his recent struggles, is better than what he's shown.

    But Veras? He's just been waaaaay too inconsistent for his entire career. They've been waiting to see if he could put it together, because he's out of options, but they've waited long enough, I think.
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The only good thing about signing Teixiera is that if he went to Boston he would be batting .500 now with 3 winning hits against the Yankees. They just need to hide him somewhere until he learns how to play in NY.
     
  3. Scikotic

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    You cant be serious about Tex. He will be fine. But if you want to jump shit on him, go right ahead. Can't please em all, right Don?
     
  4. BakerMaker

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    Both Sabathia and Texiera have been notorious slumpers in April and in the early part of May but come June they usually turn it up.

    Doesnt seem like its different this year either, we knew that those 2 had those problems when signing them. This isnt new.
     
  5. ace_o_spades

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    Sabathia was pitching so well until the 7th inning...did Girardi leave him in for too long? I didn't see the game but I saw he threw 119 pitches
     
  6. ace_o_spades

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    Considering how poorly we've started the past several years, I think being 13-11 is a victory but we've lost some winnable games this year. 15-9 or 16-8 looks and feels a lot better than 13-11
     
  7. Cappy

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    Here's the thing that always gets me about the Negative Nancys: their predictions/assessments rarely have anything to do with attempting to render an accurate assessment of their team.

    The people who are always predicting doom and gloom are almost always just hedging their bets. If they're right, and the player/team stinks, they get to say they were right. If they're wrong, their team has won. And so they get satisfaction either way. It's such a wimpy way to go through life.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    It's a month into the season...he would have to bat .400 this month to end up at .290 on June 1st..sure you don't want to rethink what you just said? Or maybe you think if he bats .270 for the season he has earned his money, do you?
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Neither are getting paid chump change now..they no longer have that luxury of taking the first month or two off..although Sabathia has been just fine in most of his starts, he just has no support when he pitches.
     
  10. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    13-11 without A-Rod, not horrible.
     
  11. Cellar-door

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    He has 74 ABs, barring injury he should get over 650 ABs, this is also skewed by the fact that he has been walking a ton, his OBP is actually above his career march/April average. so he is off to an average start for him, but people are pitching around him to get to MAtsui or swisher. he has 19 BB in less than 100 PA so he gets walked over 20% of the time, adding in Arod should get him better pitches.

    to hit his career average of 288 assuming 600 ABs he'd have to hit 302 the rest of the way, if he gets 640 ABs he'd have to hit 300 to make 288. His career average in all months after April? 303. So his april average while lower than his career average in April is because of the limited ABs not really much of a factor in whether he ends the year with an average over 270, in fact based on his history the most likely outcome is that he hits a tiny bit above his career average,
     
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    I didnt know Teixiera's season ended on June 1st.....

    Don, you are once again proving your worth here, which Im convinced amounts to nothing....
     
  13. Cappy

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    Exactly. And it's not a bad OBP, to boot. It's currently better than our lead-off hitter's.

    Batting average is a rather poor way to determine a hitter's value. If Teixeira hits .260 for the season, but gets on base at a .410 clip, I'd say there's a good chance that, yes, he's earning his money.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Wow..did YOU really say that?
     
  15. ace_o_spades

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    Who's A-Rod? I thought his new nickname was Bitch Tits :rofl:
     
  16. Yisman

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    ^ or pitch-tipper?

     
  17. AlioTheFool

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    I know this is going to sound crazy, and I know Cappy is going to flip out that I would even mention it, but for the first time since he's been here, I actually think the Yankees might be better off without ARod.

    Yes, we lose a lot of RBI potential with Pena in the lineup but we gain a totally different "feel" to the team. Yeah, I know, ARod is going to put up tons of RBI, but this team the other night was exciting. For the first time in years I actually felt like they had a chance. They fought back in the bottom of the 8th, and even down going into the ninth, I still had honest faith that this team could win. And they did.

    Yes, ARod is a monster hitter, and we'll probably have much larger margins of victory once he returns. However, I don't think I'm going to have that same faith that this team can come back late with him playing. This team is winning now because they're manufacturing runs. That's how the mid-late 90s teams won. Base hits, walks, stealing. Move runners over, don't swing for the fences.

    We lose that when ARod comes back.
     
  18. Cappy

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    Well, a few points:

    1. They're not really winning now. They're 13-11.

    2. If A-Rod helps the team score more runs earlier in games, they won't need to manufacture runs as often. (I don't think they're really manufacturing runs that often this year. They're actually scoring quite a bit.)

    3. I like Pena, too. But he's a natural SS, not a 3B.

    4. A-Rod (and Nady) coming back improves our bench a ton.

    5. I have no problem if the Yanks want to get rid of A-Rod. It depends on what they could get for him, though. I doubt it's very much, without eating a ton of salary.

    6. And lastly, I'm not sure I'd want to build a team around faith in late inning comebacks. I'd rather build a team around building big leads and avoiding the need to comeback. You'll win more games that way.
     
  19. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    it has beena nice refreshing feeling but over 162 games a bottom 3 of Melky, Pena and Gardner would cost us big time in the AL. Not to mention Posada off days when you have Molina in the lineup as well
     
  20. Cappy

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    It wouldn't be Melky, Pena AND Gardner. We've just been seeing both Melky and Gardner because Swisher is hurt. But your overall point is correct. No one will miss A-Rod's baggage when he's gone, but we'll all miss his bat.
     

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