The Wildcat?

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  1. Jet Blue

    Jet Blue New Member

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    Can someone explain this to me? Anyone else getting sick of hearing this BS...

    When the Jets, in Mangini and Schotts 1st year used Brad Smith a lot with direct snaps, wasn't that the same thing as the Wild Cat?

    Why do people, including guys like Phil Simms, Gush over this thing and act as if Miami is revolutionizing the game and Invented something radically new?????

    1st of all I think Miami and Pennington played over their heads and took advantage of not only an easy schedule, like we had, but a schedule that unfolded perfectly while they experienced no injuries especially to Chad, which alone is a minor miracle....



    ******Prediction right now: With Mangini gone and Schottenheimer given free reigns of the offense, Watch, as he brings back a lot of the plays he used 3 years ago - and Mark my words, Phil Simms and everyone else is going to say the Jets are copying what Miami did and I'm going to puke in my Nachos and smash a beer against the wall.
     
  2. Don

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    Because when Miami ran it it actually worked for a lot of positive yardage.
     
  3. German Jets Fan

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    When the Jets used Brad Smith as a option-QB, it was a variation of a Wildcat, but many teams do this, and did this before the Phins drew so much attention. The Phins didn?t just use a variation, but the pure Wildcats, which has two major differneces, to what other team do: an Offset OL (3 OL on one side of the Center, one on the other) and a lot of direct snaps to the RB
     
  4. Jet Blue

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    So???????

    They didn't invent anything.

    Personally I hope they continue to go down that road... I don't think it works against better team - Even The Pats D wasn't as strong as usual last year and I'm sure Bellichik is licking his chops right now for this garbage.

    I've heard Parcells say in the past that he uses Gimmicks when he feels he's undermanned.. I think with pennington, that's the definition of undermanned.

    And I also think Miami fans are a little too excited about Chad Henne who looks like a bust IMO.
     
  5. rockyusmc2003

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    They used it to torch the Patriots. That's why it got so much attention.

    It's a nice gimmick offense, but I'm totally sick of hearing about it. The minute they run this more than 20% of the time, it's going to be shut down. Defensive coordinators will come up with a system to stop this. Same reason the option isn't used in the NFL, players are just too damned fast!

    That being said, I do like Pat White. Unlike Vick, he is actually pretty accurate. I don't know how long being a 'gimmick' QB will last though. This guys wants to play every down, and Henne is their supposed heir apparent to Pennington. It should get interesting.
     
  6. GBA

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    It worked for us too, we just didn't use it that often. Miami brought attention to it by using it 4 or 5 times a game and pulling off an 11-5 record after last year's 1-15. They didn't revolutionize the game and they lost in the playoffs because the play is a gimmick and it was their only card in the hat.
     
  7. CJLang

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    The wildcat is not new, just the name. It just hasn't been used for a long time. Watch old college films and you'll see 2 or 3 guys in the backfield with one of themtaking a shotgun snap.

    It's basically running the option offense with a shotgun snap instead of having the guy under center.
     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Yes, it is a form of the Single Wing created by Pop Warner
     
  9. Italian Seafood

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    I read or heard somewhere during the season that is was actually Pennington who brought some of the Brad Smith ideas to the coaching staff and they tweaked it into the Wildcat. So in essence the Jets would get some credit at least for the early version of it. As it was mentioned, we just didn't have as much success with it.

    The game Miami broke it out vs the Pats in Week 3, it helped that Chad threw for 200 yards in the first half and they had a big lead already, enabling them to toy with it and run the ball the way they did in the second half.
     
  10. Gator

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    Now that Miami drafted Pat White, I expect them to come up with a whole new batch of Wildcat plays. With Pennington, Brown, Ginn and White on the field at the same time they are gonna come up with plays that are gonna fool the sht outta teams...namely us!
     
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    That was the first thing I thought of when I saw they drafted him. I don't watch a ton of college ball but I'm familiar with the Big East as I'm a Rutgers fan.
     
  12. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    What made their wildcat so succesful was that it was somewhat new, but it was also very creative and they were able to do many things off of it.
     
  13. Gator

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    Most wildcat plays up until them, the guy getting the snap was the surprise. With Miami last year, that was just the first thing that happened on the play.
     
  14. ouchy

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    I don't really consider what we did with BS a version of the wildcat. The wildcat needs to be lead by a RB not a WR/3rd string QB. A big part of the wildcat is the QB can hit the middle or the edge depending on where he holes are. Brad Smith cant run up the middle like a RB.
     
  15. rhodesfan16

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    I agree that the wildcat is unique but this crap about how its going to be a totally new style of offense is completely ridiculous
     
  16. Gator

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    HOw do you know what Parcells, Chad, Sparano, Brown, White and Ginn are cooking up? They were fooling teams so bad last year, that this year I expect their center to be running up the middle for 50 yards while all the defenders are running towards the sideline.
     
  17. Italian Seafood

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    Stop right there. That's a lot of football smarts for one team. Hopefully Rex has a scheme to knock their heads around a little bit so they forget some shit during the game.
     
  18. Gator

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    Exactly, the way to fight smarts is with extreme violence.
     
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    Chad's familiarity with that style helped develop it at the NFL level, but not how it made its way to Miami. David Lee, Miami's QB coach, brought the Wildcat with him from Arkansas. The Dolphins recognized they had the personnel to run it. I'm sure Chad gave some input, but Lee's the primary reason for what you're seeing down there.

    Again, it really was never as successful as it was in that first Pats game. In fact, if you watch late in the season, it frequently led to results that look like a poor man's Barry Sanders stat sheet. Loss of 2, Loss of 5, Loss of 4, Gain of 7, Loss of 3, Gain of 6...
     
  20. Italian Seafood

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    Yeah, the Week 17 game vs us they didn't get much with it at all and they were playing for the division title. Chad threw a couple of TDs and Favre had the pick-6, that was 21 points right there.
     

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