is that so? than how do you account for most of the best QB's in the league today being outstanding college QB's: Manning, Rothlesberger, Rivers, Brees, McNabb, Matt Ryan, the list goes on and on. just because alot fail doesn't mean there is a correlation to outstanding college QB's not being able to be great NFL QB's, unless you can show overwhelming statistics of average college QB's becoming great NFL players. you can't. the Tom Brady's are the exception, not any rule you seem to be insinuating. a look at the best NFL QB's in history show some of the best college QB's as well. we can start with Elway, Montana and Aikman if you like and go from there.
Honestly with this trade we have another hole at Defensive End! We still dont have a legit Wide Reciever, still need a blocking Tight End, now we need a Defensive End. This Sanchez Move, was by Woody Johnson. Woody Johnson has made the worst decisions his whole entire time here. Its funny to see how Quickly you Brett Ratliff lovers that wanted him to start, jump off ship and say oh he was a backup, and only had good pre season games against scrubs. This Sanchez move was terrible. We shoudlve stayed put for Maclin, or traded back like New England, and Cleveland did. We dont just have one hole on this football team. This is why New England is great, they just dont fill one hole, they aquire picks to fill more holes AND ADD DEPTH. I wouldnt be surprised if Cleveland is better than us MANGINI WILL COME BACK AND BITE US. I might add the Iowa Running back was a great pick. But Sanchez was not. Josh Freeman and bank this will be a better quaterback than Sanchez in the NFL. I hope we can aquire Boldin, or Edwards for next years 2nd? because look what cleveland did they got 2 wideouts in the 2nd round. This franchise is still going to suck thank you WOODY! GLAD IM NOT BUYING YOUR PSL
Rothlesberger, Rivers, and, Mcnabb were not the top QBs in the country when they played in college. They were good, but they were not great. None sniffed a Heisman, so whats your point? What Leinhart, Young, and Couch doing these days? There are some who succeed but many of these outstanding college QBS do not. Oh BTW Eli is only average he never woulda willed his team to the Super Bowl like his brother. That team won because of defense.
yeah, they only got drafted in the top 10. not sniffing a Heisman does not equate to not being a great or outstanding college QB, it means other players in other positions may have had more media applauded seasons (Maurice Jones Drew had equally as good a year as Reggie Bush on a far worse team the year Bush won the Heisman and didn't sniff the trophy, so clearly the subjectivity of the accomplishments isn't as simple as you want to make it). so, what's your point? they were top QB's in the country when they were drafted, you can't even make that assertion with any sort of honest analysis. just because you have to reduce their accomplishments to whether they won they were at Radio City Music Hall doesn't change that.
They were tops in the draft but not in college and ur Jones-Drew argument just supports what i said anyway. Just because you do outstanding in college doesn't translate into success in the NFL. My point is even tho Sanchez only has 16 starts, its not necessarily a disadvantage because he is gonna learn the NFL game and not learning to get over habits that make you successful in college and not in the NFL.
What do you not understand about the NFL??? This is clearly the stupidest post I have seen in quite awhile. NE is not great because the add depth. THEY ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOM BRADY. THEY ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOM BRADY. THEY ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOM BRADY. Hello??? McFly??? Do you get it now? They can add DEPTH, because they don't have to search for a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. They don't have to send picks and players every year to find a FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK. Kenyon Coleman, Abram Elam and Brett Ratliff are not going to win us a championship. IF RATLIFF was THE GUY, they wouldn't have traded him. The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION on the field is the QB position. You may disagree that Sanchez is that guy - that is fine. But you cannot disagree that the price the Jets paid was too high for a potential FRANCHISE QB. You cannot say this trade set the Jets back 5 years at this point in time. WHY? Because the Jets have been set back 40 years since they last had a FRANCHISE QB.
it doesn't support it in the least. it goes to show that the Heisman doesn't include all great college players and is fueled by media perception, so it can't be used as a means to gauge a players greatness because many great college players never sniffed a Heisman either. the only thing that would support your position are statistics that would show that the majority of great NFL QB's were average college QB's. unfortunately for you, the opposite would be concluded, that the majority of great or HOF NFL QB's were also great college QBs too. just because more great college QB's don't succeed in the NFL doesn't mean more average college QB's succeed. it's just that when an average college QB doesn't make it in the NFL, nobody notices, and when one does, it gets exaggerated.
I want to like he guy. I'm not sure I will ever agree with the deal we mde though. The article the OP posted is nice but we got to remember that most teams number 1 picks are being stroked and praised. After day one everyone projects the picks in their best case scenarios. We all should know most first round picks wont live up to the hype they are getting this weekend. Its still draft weekend so I figure we can rant about our picks for at least another 24 hours before we accept them and move on.
3207 yards a 65.8% completion %, 8.76 YPA, 34TD's and 10 INT's and a 164 plus QB rating. The guy was a great college QB.
Did they make the playoffs? They lost 6 more games last year than they did the year before. Tom Brady is THE reason why NE is cinsistently great and THE reason they went from a joke at the beginning of the decade to the best franchise in the sport.
I watched the Sanchez highlight and analysis video on the Jets website last night and at the end the narrator says he should go in the late 1st round and maybe even the 2nd. Then I went to look at it again this morning and someone has now edited that ending out. It ends right after, "Sanchez has the talent to be a top 10 pick....." Right before the "but".... I think the Jets fell for all the recent hype that Sanchez created himself. I just don't feel he is the real deal... I hope I am wrong.
Wow junc, we usually agree. They went 11-5 and missed the playoffs by the slimest of tie breakers. With a first year starter. And many people beleived if they would have made the playoffs they would be a legit SB contender. All without Tom Brady. Are we going 11-5 this year with Sanchez?
obviously klecko73 doesnt know what he is talking about at all! Tom Brady ok is a huge part of that teams success. But they went 11-5 without him. So Tom Brady isnt the only factor why they are success. Explain to me please Klecko73 who the JETS are going to throw the ball to?, and whose going to be our defensive end?
I dont think its hype he created for himself. Its just draft week hype. It becomes like a game for the media and the best draft coaches use that hype in their favor. Trading up to aquire a hyped player is a huge gamble and honestly a rookie draft mistake.
You are now just embarrassing yourself. The Pats have won 3 SBs with Brady and was one flukey completion away by Manning from winning a 4th Super Bowl and going 19-0. They were 18-1 two years ago and went 11-5 with a back-up QB because of the depth they were able to accumulate because they did not have to search for a franchise QB. Is there more to the Patriots than Brady? Yes, they are an above-average team that can challenge for the division title every year and make some noise in the playoffs. With Brady, they are a Super Bowl calibar team.
If Brady didn't get hurt last year they probably are the No. 1 seed and host the AFC finals. The Pats have done a great job in the draft but you hit the nail, having Brady allows them to stockpile picks and the fact that FA WR want to play there to have Brady throwing the ball to them for chump change doesn't hurt either.
