Check out some of these guys that we may be able to pick up with our 3rd. Some OUTSTANDING values here: Andre Brown RB Rashad Jennings RB Shonn Greene RB James Davis RB Mike Wallace WR Juaquin Iglesias WR Louis Murphy WR Derrick Williams WR Ramses Barden WR Anthony Hill TE Chase Coffman TE Jared Cook TE Shawn Nelson TE Jamon Meredith T/G TJ Lang G/T/C Duke Robinson G Kraig Urbik G/T Jonathan Luigs C/G Lawrence Sidbury Jr. OLB/DE Jarron Gilbert DE Michael Johnson DE Dorrell Scott DL Alex Magee DE Chris Baker DL Sammie Lee Hill DL DJ Moore CB Rashad Johnson S David Bruton S Jarron Gilbert in the 3rd anyone??
You know who I really like off of that list - Chase Coffman out of Mizzou. If he can stay healthy, he'll be a force in the NFL - both as a blocker and as a receiver. If he falls into the 4th, that will be a hell of a pick.
yeah I agree the tight ends are really falling out from the top, I'd add Mark Parson to the list, one of my favorite corner prospects this year
well Al davis is such a genius he just knows everything lmao. I cant believe how many people dont have Parson getting drafted I guess to expand, the prospects who Im most intrested in the Jets looking at are Mike Mickens, Mark Parson, Chase Coffman, James Casey, Quinn Johnson (get a FULLBACK) Louis Vazquez, Herman Johnson, Gilbert, Jean-Francois, Terrance Taylor, Myron Pryor, Sammie Lee, Hill, Victor Harris, Emmanuel cook, Derek Pegues lot of guys...get to it tanny
Herman Johnson would be a nice pickup this late in the draft. If this team wants to run the football, he is the guy to get. I'd love to see Harris or Cook brought in as well -- even though E-Cook is a fucking idiot, he can play football...Bob Sanders-like.
Just for fun, guys I'd like to consider for the rest of tomorrow 3- Jarron Gilbert, DE (alt- Derrick Williams, WR) 4- Ramses Barden, WR (Richard Quinn, TE) 5- Terrance Taylor, DT 6- Kevin Huber, P 7- James Davis, RB Basically, would like a DE, WR, P, and RB to come out of tomorrow.
I forget we're starting the third and not the fourth - I mean, there sure as hell better be starter-quality players out there. I'd like Gilbert and SAmmie Lee Hill and Anthony Hill.
I want them to move, TJ. Pick up, Green. After that I don't care. Ok, I do. Still, well, TJ is good too, I don't know anymore.
Right here. Your the draft expert and you know your football. 1. What do the Raiders want to do- predominately run or pass the football? 2. How many very fast WRs have the Raiders have in their history. What is the purpose of those speed threats in the raiders offense? 3 .which WR will be more contempt to take a back seat to those running backs(Dhb or Crabtree) Maclin was excluded because raiders already have a smaller version in johnnie Lee Higgins. Your no dope WW85. You know diffrent offenses, value Wrs diffrent. The only problem i had with the pick was where he was drafted. Al Davis has never traded down in his life in the first round. He rather reach, than miss out the player he wants. Remember when the Jets got cute trading back and Eagles snatched the guy they wanted. Chris Gocong. When it works(trading back and you still get player) it one of the best things , but when it dosen't their has to be alot of second guessing in that warroom. The safety in the second round. What does it tell you that the Bears say they were drafting him two spots after the Raiders. Confirmed by the safety who bears told him he was there choice two spots later. (you noticed how fast they traded back after raiders selected him) So another NFl team that we know was picking him there. sounds like Raiders maybe out worked, the rest of the teams for this player. You know this as a person who has followed the draft for all these years. There are no winners or losers right now. Three years from now we can start forming an accurate oipinion of who had the worst draft.
Joe............DHB was a reach at #7. If Al wants speed he got it, just not a complete football player. Al Davis values only speed, which gives the Raiders limited options. Drafting properly is all about value, the rest of the league didn't value oth players that high. Trading back and getting more picks is the way to go. I understanding trading back #7 is difficult, but not impossible. Trading back in Rd 2 was a no brainer. That rumor of Chicago wanting Mitchell got shot down a few hours after it was brought up, an agent might have been spinning Mitchell. Mitchell was at best, 5th rd talent. The Raiders got scared and pulled the trigger. Hey, my NY Jets weren't immune to stupid reaches (Lageman), they have had their share in the past. Drafting is a poker game and Al Davis bit on Mitchell. There were many much better players on the board. I agree, you can't grade a draft 48 hours later, w'ell see in a few years. But, you can say what Teams reached for a player and didn't get good value.
Again no one saying Raiders didn't reach for DHB. I already said its al Davis Philosphy to never trade down in the first. You want a player , you have to have convictions to take him early ,than to watch some other team get the guy you like. (staying true to your beliefs ) Raider position is they have the intermediate threats( TE Zach Miller- could be probowl TE with Gonzalez gone and Javon walker. They need that speed WR Sub 4.3 to stretch the field to not only open up the area for Miller and Walker to exploit, but to open up space for the running game. Get those safetys out of the box. The Raiders bread and butter still going to be the run. DHB get six balls thrown to him deep, he catches three bombs and those three passes could be the diffrence in the game. You put crabtree in this offense he still not catchiing alot of balls. because Raiders are a running team. Let me give you an example why your argument silly that the rest of the league didn't value so called player that high. Who cares what rest of the league thought. The rest of the league passed on Tom Brady how many times. (6th round) They had a do over you bet he would go in top five. (Just proves the draft an inexact science) NOw on to Mitchell, YEa the Bears trading down real fast after Raiders made there pick. Yea just coincidence. right. http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotr...ago-bears.html Safety Mike Mitchell expected to be selected by Chicago Bears By Vaughn McClure The surprise pick of the second round was Ohio University safety Mike Mitchell going to the Raiders with the 47th overall selection, two slots before the Bears were supposed to pick. Our friend David White from the San Francisco Chronicle, who covers the Raiders, informed us that Mitchell expected to go to the Bears at No.49. The Raiders traded down from No. 40, swapping with the New England Patriots. ``I thought I was going to Chicago because they had told me to stay close to my phone,'' Mitchell told Oakland-area reporters. ``When they did that, I was like, `Ok, I'm going to be a Chicago Bear.' That's what I was thinking.'' Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said he was looking at a defensive player before shipping the pick to Seattle for a third-rounder and a fourth-rounder. Angelo would not reveal the name of that defensive player. The Bears also wanted Ohio State receiver Brian Robiskie, who went to Cleveland early in the second round. Wide receiver and safety remain positions of need as the Bears enter Day 2 of the draft armed with nine picks. __________________ Raiders coaches told Mike Mitchell at his Raiders visit he would make an immediate impact on their defense. If they really feel that good about this player, I have no problem where they took him. Raiders brought in alot of Safetys for visits. What does it tell you they took this guy over all the rest. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SPPG174RFA.DTL Oakland sees impact in safety from Ohio U. David White, Chronicle Staff Writer Monday, April 20, 2009(five days before the deraft this was posted) (04-19) 20:40 PDT -- Ohio University safety Mike Mitchell could not believe his eyes, and he most certainly could not believe his ears. Oakland Raiders There stood Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, telling Mitchell what an instant difference he'd make in the Raiders' secondary during last week's predraft visit. Making matters all the more overwhelming, Raiders secondary coach Lionel Washington - a former NFL player himself - was reading from the exact same script. "It was absolutely amazing," Mitchell said in a phone interview. "To have those guys actually speaking to me ... it was almost unreal hearing that from a Hall of Famer." The message was simple: The Raiders need able bodies at the safety position, and they need them now. That's why Mitchell was brought to Alameda - along with Wake Forest safety Chip Vaughn - last week for a round of tire kicking. As it stands, the Raiders have three safeties on the roster: Tyvon Branch, who spent most his rookie season on injured reserve; Michael Huff, a first-round pick in 2006 now on the bench; and Hiram Eugene, an undrafted free agent with one year of starting experience. There used to be more. Rashad Baker led team safeties with three interceptions last year but left for the Eagles. Gibril Wilson was second with two interceptions but was released in January. To think, Raiders safeties combined for three interceptions in 2006-07. The remaining trio combines for two career picks. So yeah, this has been an ongoing problem ever since new Hall of Famer Rod Woodson retired in 2004. "Well, it's a concern," Raiders coach Tom Cable said of the lack of depth. "Maybe that's one of those priorities." Brown and Washington said as much to Mitchell, a late-round candidate who wasn't invited to the NFL combine but wowed scouts with a 4.43 in the 40-yard dash. He played free and strong safety at Ohio. His ability to hit hard against the run and defend cover well in the pass game makes him a player of interest to a team that could use more of both. "They want a couple of guys to come in and make an immediate impact," Mitchell said. "They want me to be the guy I was in college and be an impact. It was so cool to hear that word. A lot of teams draft you for depth or special teams. If it all works out, they want to draft me so I can make an impact that first year. "There's nothing more I want to do."
