DONT draft a WR @ 17, take RB MORENO

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  1. kennyo07

    kennyo07 New Member

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    WR is the biggest crapshoot position of them all in the draft, so many busts. If Crabtree and Maclin are gone and they will be we should not take a gamble on Hayward Bey, Harvin or Hicks. I would rather spend that pick on the best RB in the draft, Moreno who may still be on the board when we pick.

    I would not be surprised at all if Moreno is the pick if he is on the board - 1400yds and 16TD last year at Georgia. If we have the ability to secure the RB spot (our horse, not L Washington) for the next 8-10 years than you do it.

    Pick up a WR in FA and 2nd or later rounds. Pick up Matt Jones for example to compliment Cotch, Clowney, Stuckey and B Smith. That is a very workable WR committee.


    I am telling you as a UMD alum, Heyward Bey is fast but raw. Too much risk, grab Moreno.

    JUST SAY NO TO WR AT 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    its like a political campaign.
     
  3. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Actually, TSN just did a study of first round picks in the draft and the result was that the three top "crapshoots" in the NFL draft are QB, RB and WR. It is a 50% chance that a pick at any of these positions will be a bust.

    I personnally don't see the need to draft Freeman with all the young QBs on the roster.

    I don't see a WR worth picking at 17. Crabtree and Maclin will be gone. I am not impressed with Heyward Bey or Harvin or anyone else at WR to spend the money and take a risk. There is as good a chance, or better, that Stuckey or Clowney step up this year than one of those picks pans out, and it is a heck of a lot cheaper. Plus, it takes a rookie WR three years to develop into a productive player. No WR the Jets draft at 17 will contribute this year and their contribution in 2010 will be limited. If you are willing to bet on a 50% chance that a WR the Jets draft at 17 will gain 1000 yards receiving in 2011, then WR is the position for you.

    RB is just as big a crapshoot as WR. It is such a misleading position in college when the OLs of the dominant programs are so much bigger and faster than opponent defenses that RBs have huge holes to run through. Those holes don't exist in the NFL. It makes RBs look better than they are (see Reggie Bush).

    The more I look at it, the more I would like to see the Jets take one of the USC LBs at 17. LBs pan out in the draft far more frequently. The Jets, playing a 3-4, can not have enough LBs. Go for the skill players in the later rounds .
     
  4. RevisCB

    RevisCB New Member

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    That's exactly what i thought when i read the last line :rofl:

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    Should we get some of these sorted
     
  5. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not big on taking WR's in the 1st round.

    Personally, if i go offense i say get Pettigrew. If not him i say DE.
     
  6. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Screw Moreno.

    Shonn Greene in round 2!!
     
  7. southparkfanciz

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    Saturday can't come sooner.......
     
  8. Gunther

    Gunther Member

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    The draft is a crapshoot
    Period
    The only thing that has been consistent recently are tackles
    But since we are not in the market for OT, we have to draft for whatever needs fits our bill

    I can understand the fear. No one wants to be wrong, but that is life.
    Sometimes you are wrong and sometimes you are right
     
  9. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Name: Knowshon Moreno
    School: Georgia
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 215lbs
    Speed: 4.62
    2008 Rushing Attemps: 250
    2008 Rushing Yards: 1,400
    2008 Rushing TDs: 16
    2008 Receptions: 33
    2008 Reception Yards: 392
    2008 TD Receptions: 2
    Projected Round: 1

    vs

    Name: Kory Sheets
    School: Purdue
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 210lbs
    Speed: 4.47
    2008 Rushing Attemps: 234
    2008 Rushing Yards: 1,131
    2008 Rushing TDs: 16
    2008 Receptions: 37
    2008 Reception Yards: 253
    2008 TD Receptions: 1
    Projected Round: 5
     
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  10. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    We can get great value at RB in the 3rd and 4th round. Running back is a crapshot as well..

    I don't want DHB. Most guys on this board don't either.

    It all depends on who's there. Personally, I think a trade down is the best scenario. But that's wishful thinking..
     
  11. CP+SM=TD

    CP+SM=TD New Member

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    And I can tell you as a current UF student that Harvin is the real deal. This kid is going to absolutely tear it up in the NFL. He smoked a little weed...so what who hasn't.

    He has pure speed and acceleration. He can play in the backfield or at receiver. Having him and Leon (and maybe even Brad Smith) on the field at the same time would be IMPOSSIBLE to cover. He may take a little time to get the system down, but once he does every team will regret not taking him.

    Mark my words..
     
  12. pender30

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    It's not that smoking pot is the worst thing in the world, it's that he couldn't stop smoking pot before a drug test that he knew was coming for months. What a moron.
     
  13. chrisrex

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    It's not a matter of morals or harmless fun. If he does that in the NFL, he WILL miss games. Something you HAVE to consider if you're thinking about taking him. He may be squeaky clean in the NFL, but that's why you have to redflag someone who may flunk tests. Think Ricky Williams: 'Just' pot.
     
  14. JCotchrocket

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    I disagree with the "the draft is just a crapshoot" philosophy.

    Teams that draft well are not just "lucky." The Steelers, the Colts, the Patriots... these are not dumb-lucky teams. They draft well because they do their research. There was a great link someone posted on this website that had a list of all the teams in the NFL and all the players each team brought in for a workout or an interview. Not surprisingly, the Colts, the Steelers and the Patriots all had the longest list of players they've taken a close look at. Contrarily, teams like the Bills, the Texans and the Raiders had relatively short lists.

    Now sure, you have the Lawrence Maroney's and the Limas Sweed's, but all in all, good teams that do their homework come out winning on draft day. There were higher rated players available when Jerod Mayo went off the board, when Gonzalez was picked, when Tony Ugoh was picked, but the Colts and the Patriots trusted their scouts and their GM's.

    I'm glad to say that the Jets organization has followed suit under Tannenbaum's administration. The Jets have an extensive list of personal workouts as well. It wasn't dumb luck that we picked Ferguson over Leinart, it wasn't dumb luck that we traded up for Darelle Revis (despite the very common opinion that Revis and Leon Hall were of equal value), it wasn't dumb luck that we traded up for Dustin Keller when we could have stayed put and drafted Devin Thomas, the so-called best wide receiver in the draft, and our streak of "Fourth Round Miracles" isn't dumb luck either. It's homework, paying off.

    I don't know who we're going to draft on Saturday, but I like our position. Last year, we were handcuffed at arguably the worst spot in the entire draft. Ryan, Long, Long, and McFadden were all gone. We either had to say "No, we will not draft Vernon Gholston, despite the fact that our team needs a pass rush more than anything else" or pull the trigger. Now we are at 17 and our options are numerous. I don't know who we're going to draft Saturday, but I'm confident that he'll be a great player for our team for a long time.
     
  15. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Exactly, it's the immaturity he exhibited more than anything else
     
  16. JCotchrocket

    JCotchrocket Active Member

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    Yes, I agree. Don't care if the kid smoked pot. But if he can't understand that if he failed that drug test, it would cost him MILLIONS of dollars, how can he be counted on to understand the significance of a four-game suspension? The Drug Test is not a test for drugs; it's a test for intelligence.
     
  17. CP+SM=TD

    CP+SM=TD New Member

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    Yea and look at Ricky now, he had a great season last year. I completely agree that it was a bonehead move to toke up before the test, but you can't deny the talent that he has. Miami took a huge risk in bringing Ricky back but it paid huge dividends for doing so. Do you really want to pass up on a great talent like Harvin because he MIGHT get in trouble? This team has not seen a playmaker like him for far too long and it is absolutely worth the risk to take him at 17. He WILL be a stud in this league and I do not want to pass up on an opportunity like that.
     
  18. Gunther

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    It's the money you would have to pay Harvin
    It's hard to build a team around players who can't keep themselves from possibly getting into trouble
     
  19. MBGreen

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    Harvin's past injury history basically says he won't be able to handle a full NFL schedule without getting hurt...the guy is a piece of glass...PASS.
     
  20. ace_o_spades

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    A lot of teams are cooling on Harvin, if he's there with our second round pick I wouldn't mind taking him In the first tho, no way
     

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