What you guys are forgetting is that management changed hands in the middle of Chad's tenure here. It's not like they stuck with him all that time, he came into 2006 with a brand new regime, a bunch of QBs and an open competition, had to start from square one and win the job all over again. He won it and took the team to the playoffs when nobody thought they would win five games, so they were supposed to determine then he couldn't get it done? You guys' timeline isn't adding up.
He fit that description until he hurt his arm. He is and never will be the same. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Big Ben are Franchise Qb's. Are you going to put Chad in their category. Or even Qb's like McNabb, Brees, Carson Palmer or Phillip Rivers who have not won yet?
So what year do people make that decision? After the 2005 season? After the 2004 season? We drafted Clemens in '06. Regardless, "quick fix for the last 10 years" is complete bullshit. edit: I think you all know my opinion of Pennington too, I'm hardly sticking up for the guy.
That's all subjective, how you want to categorize people. What isn't subjective is that he was a #1 pick, came in and took us to the playoffs multiple times, which is what he was supposed to do. Again, injuries along with missed kicks and bad coaching kept us from getting further, but it's not like Chad wasn't the franchise QB here, he was, like him or not.
I don't agree with it in the premise that FOURTHANDSCHLONG does, but there was a point where it was just an obvious stopgap keeping him as a starter when they could (and probably should) have taken a change early in the first round of the 2006 draft. Under the Herm regime, there were so many bad personnel decisions made that you can't just point to Chad.
As WSW said, they did take Clemens with a #2 in that draft, and the QBs who went high, Young and Leinart, haven't been as good as Pennington has been since that draft--even disregarding what he had done before that. That leaves Cutler, who also hasn't been to the playoffs (Pennington has twice in three seasons since that draft) and would have come here with no line because he would have been the pick we got Brick with. The problem is Clemens isn't as good as Pennington either, so coaches with their jobs on the line aren't going to play an inferior and/or unproven player. The same reason he's starting over Henne now and took them to the playoffs. If they keep winning, their "future" is going to have to wait also, that's how it works, not just here. Coaches and GMs are paid to win games, they don't care with whom.
Key word there is "projected". Also because Pennington is only under contract for this year and he's not going to play forever. That has nothing to do with the period of time from 2006-now, which we are discussing.
Bullshit, I never mentioned Henne, you did, and it is right on subject. Chad is a Band-Aid in Miami, just like he was here for the first 2 seasons Mangini was HC.
Perhaps, but he's a band-aid who wins games and gets you to the playoffs, which is the only way to the Super Bowl. Point being, it's not a "quick fix" to play your best players, it's what people in the business of winning games do to win games. The Jets are no different than any other team in that regard. They drafted a young future guy (Clemens) as Miami did (Henne), from there it's on the player to be good enough to get on the field and beat out the veteran. If he can't do it he doesn't play, it has nothing to do with a "quick fix".
