Sorry if this is not the place to put this, but, I really wasn't sure where to place it. http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/97279-vikings-may-trade-first-round-pick It wouldn't be surprising if the Vikings, who are without fourth- and sixth-round picks in next month's NFL draft, try to slide down by trading their No. 22 overall pick for more picks. That's because they still might be able to fill their most glaring needs in the draft -- offensive tackle and a possession wide receiver -- later in the first round. If they can find a trade partner, they probably could satisfy both positions near the end of the first round. There is a decent chance that offensive tackle Eben Britton of Arizona will be available, as well as wide receivers Hakeem Nicks of North Carolina and Kenny Britt of Rutgers. It's virtually certain one of the three will be available near the end of the first round. The Vikings even could trade out of the first round and still get a decent offensive tackle and receiver, assuming they would get a second-round pick in return. They also would have their own second-round pick. ** Reason I put this up is, do you think the Jets might be the one to trade for this pick? I'd toss out our 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder and see if they would bite. I'd love to have #17 AND #22. We could get our QB that I am very sure that we will be drafting AND our WR that we should draft. Sanchez and Britt? Freeman and Nicks? or a combo of any QB/WR would be great. WOODY NEEDS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
It's draft related, no problem. Thanks for the info. Remember, it sounds like messageboard/blog fodder, so take it with a grain of salt.
From what I can gather, it seems as if the Vikes want to slide down toward the end of the 1st round, not out of the 1st round all together. A 2nd and a 4th for a 1st? I don't think it works that way.
Cool, I'm glad I placed this in the right spot. I can see the Vikings actually doing this, in fact, I can see a few teams doing something like this. Look at how New England has worked the system, they have something like 12 picks. A team looking to re-build or want younger players might end up trading a mid-1st rounder for two or three later round picks. I just hope anything that is offered in the 1st round, Woody gets his hands on it.
According to the NFL Draft Trade Value Chart, even the Jets' 2nd, 3rd, AND 4th rounders packaged together would not equal the value of #22.
Does the league mandate that the "value" be even or does it have a certian "it's close enough" value?
Nah, there is no league mandated "value", it's just a chart that is often used to give you a general idea of how realistic a draft day trade is. Granted, what the chart says and what happens on draft day are two different things, but the chart offers a good ballpark idea. Sorry for not posting the link before. Here it is: http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
Well according to the list here is how it would break down The Vikings #22 pick has the value of 780 The Jets picks we are talking about have the following value #53 - 370 *2nd round #76 - 210 *3rd round #115 - 64 *4th round It would end up value wise 780 to 644 I'm sitting here wondering if that would really be worth it. Jets could trade their 3rd and 4th rounders and grab the 64th pick. It would be 274 for the 2 picks to 270 for the 64th pick. Sorry for rambling on here.
Interesting, the best fit value wise is probably a high 2nd and a high 3rd, or 2 mid to late 2nds. unfortunately this means the team with the most options for getting up to 22 is probably the patriots 47 and 58 would get close, same with 34 and 89. something like 47 58 and 120 for 22 and 150 it's only a difference of about 7.5 points. Plus it makes sense for both teams, the Vikings aren't going to get their big need at 22 as freeman sanchez and stafford are going to be gone, and they have nothing to trade up with. For the patriots they are going to trade some picks this year, the only question is whether it's to move up or for better picks next year, if they see two guys they like at 22 who won't make it to 34 they might move up and take the back to back spots at 22.23. Though another good possibility might be philly at 28 and 85
I think a team wouldn't mind the Jets' 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for their 1st rounder, I'm talking from 22 down. Would you rather have what the Jets are "offering" here or the Pats "offer" of 47 & 58? 3 picks or 2?
Gilbert, and Britt. Give them the rest of the draft. Take Gilbert at 17, and If Britt is there at 22, trade the rest of your draft plus a 3 next year (that makes the math work...), You'll have two contracts and enough money left over to lock up Leon long term.
I wouldn't give them the WHOLE draft. I mean, giving up 2,3,4 is MOST of it tho. I still say that the Vikings would want the extra draft pick from us instead of NE, I'm not saying this just because I don't want the Pats to gain a pick, I think it's the logical thing to do. I think we are good on the D side of the ball. Our biggest needs are at QB and WR. If we can get Freeman or Sanchez at 17 and either Nicks or Britt at 22, I say that is an A+ draft for us.
I think anyone who says they'd rather have 52, 76 and 111 than 47 and 58 is deluding themselves, the drop off between teh 2nd and the third is huge, same for 3rd and 4th. And the Vikings aren't exactly the Lions they aren't trading out of the first unless they are getting either a very high second in the deal or 2 seconds, more likely they move back in the first. The only chance the jets would have to get 22 is if they trade next years first, something like 22 and 86 and 150 for 52 76 111 and jets 2010 1st, though that really doesn't solve the problem the original article states which is that they want to trade back a bit to pick up something in the 2,3,4 area
I'd rather trade down from # 17 than trade back up to # 22. I've been targeting this draft for a long time as a "depth draft" in which we start building a well rounded, deep roster.
I like the idea of getting more picks, however, I'm just afraid we are going to have yet another "Jet Draft Blunder" as has been made on youtube. So, if we don't get a QB in the draft, are you happy with who we have now to lead the way this season? If we don't get a WR, are you feeling that Clowney or Stuckey will step up enough to be a quality starter? Those two positions are the most in need of attention. If we don't address them in the draft, then when will we? BTW, I'm really loving this discussion with you guys.
Agreed. Unless Sanchez is there I wouldn't mind trading down in the first round to the mid 20's. The problem is the Bears pick 18th, Bucs 19th, Vikings 22 and Phins 25. These are all teams that can use help at reciever. So if the Jets are trading down I'm inclined to think they're waiting until the 2nd to go reciever.
I think if Sanchez is there, he must be the pick. Just my opinion as I know others have their preferences in terms of first round picks for this team. Some people want Gilbert, some want Nicks some Harvin...I find it interesting that no one really wants Freeman as I still think there's an outside chance he's the pick. If we go defense in the first round I think your going to see the Jets either move up in the second to take one of the recievers that fell, or take a guy they're high on such as a Robiskie.
Ok, last year we were dead set on drafting Gholston. Personally, I think he's the next big bust in the league. If he's as talented as we all thought, I think he would have started and made more than 2 tackles. I don't see us going D in the first two rounds, we have addressed a TON of D this off season and I know Rex is big on D, it's time to get some O on the field as well. There is no doubt that if Sanchez is there, he IS the pick. I think he's going to be a great NFL QB and we would be very foolish to miss out on him. Even if we traded up to get him, I'd still be fine with that. As for Josh Freeman. I love a big tall strong armed QB. I was a fan of Drew Bledsoe for the longest time. Freeman can move tho. I'm not sure what his 40 was off hand, but, he has plenty of speed to go with that cannon of an arm. If the Jets picked him up, I would be happy. The WR situation varies from who you hear from. I've heard that some are confident in Stucky to be a 2nd reciever, but, are you THAT confident in Cotchery? I'm not saying anyone in the draft is an automatic #1 WR for us right away. I just think drafting a QB at 17, try and make a move up from 53 and snag Britt if we can would be gold.
