I was there, and Cutler had nothing to do with that. You can attribute that game to our porous run D that day giving up over 100 yards to Peyton Hillis.
Yes, that's why I said I was there, and I sat through the whole game in the driving rain. Cutler didn't win that game. Peyton Hillis did. And the refs for that matter between the Eddie Royal TD and the early play that gladly I can't even remember what happened, just remembered it was ridiculous. He threw the ball great, but Peyton Hillis was the one that consistently kept drives going there.
I was there too - two seasons in a row the only game I went to was the same awful weather. There running game was surely a factor but to say Cutler had nothing to do with the win is ridiculous. He threw for almost 400 yards on us. Imagine what he could do with a running game that showed up every week ...
Hey quick question, for you guys since I haven't seen it posted anywhere...I think the Jets should go after this QB named Jay Cutler. Where can I post my opinion?
Tannenbaum is hopefully talking to Denver right now to get this thing hammered out. Jets + Cutler = crazy delicious
The Jets are interested in Cutler. Green Lantern's interested in winning lottery numbers. Same quality news.
Let me break down the difference between denver vs the jets if we were to face each other with the currents rosters. They would stack eight in the box and dare our QB (which ever one) to throw the ball. On offense they would spread out their recievers creating miss-matches and give Cutler more targets. This preventing us from stacking even seven in the box and giving them better lanes to run in. We would blitz which would create more one on one coverages and give Cutler all kinds of targets. While on offense we would run run run and dink and dunk all game struggling for a 1st down. A strong accurate QB will open up the run, a sub-par QB like Kellen will allow a defense to stack the front to stop the run. With Kellen who throws twice the INT rate as TDs and scrambles before he even checks down to the third reciever, every team would blitz us and stack the line. You all say we had a bad OL two years ago, I say the line would not have mattered. Send Kellen to the Browns with Mangini. The only good thing about Kellen is he has finally shut up and realized he will never be our QB of the future. Enough ranting, just get Cutler. If not him then either Anderson or Quinn.
That's.. terrible. I can't even imagine what makes you to think Clemens would limit our offense to dinks and dunks. For all his perceived faults, arm strength definitely one of them.. accuracy probably isn't either, but only time will tell. Also, the OL makes a huge difference.. to argue the contrary is just absurd. Lastly, KC has kept pretty quiet during his tenure here, so I'm not sure how you figure 'he finally shut up'. BTW, Anderson is a bum. Taking into account his contract and the fact that all three of the QBs on our roster are probably better options, trading for him would be a huge mistake.
Dude, did you have a few too many at this game? Cutler threw for 357 yards and 2 TD's in weather that typically limits a game to the ground. In the Meadowlands no less. That's an impressive feat.
I don't know, man, Hillis was a beast against us when we played Denver, I think he would be the perfect compliment to our existing team of Jones and Washington. We have lacked a true short-yardage power back for quite a while.
I agree. I think he's going to be great, I just think he commands more value in a trade right now than Torain does. I'd love to see either one of them in green. I should also mention, he's exactly the kind of guy I wanted when I hoped the Jets would draft Owen Schmitt, but that didn't happen.
Because people only judge him on his time in 07 when he was running an offense based largely on the dink and the dunk.
If only we displayed any pass rush at all in that game... his receivers wouldn't have had 7-8 seconds each play to get open.
If it weren't for a couple horribly blown coverages/missed tackles, Cutler's numbers would have been pedestrian. He was missing open targets all over the place throughout most of the game.
Now we're going to make excuses as to why Cutler lit up the Jets. The original premise was that he had nothing to do with the victory, now it's but but the Jets secondary sucked. But the Jets had no pass rush. But the Jets missed tackles. Why stop there? Go ahead and make excuses for the rest of the numbers he put up in '08 too. But nothing, he lit up the Jets that day, end of story.
I did have a few too many, but not arguing the #'s here. Arguing about how the game unfolded. Peyton Hillis completely demoralized our defense. Take away the nonsense Eddie Royal (was it about 60 yards?) TD and those #'s are starting to look a little more pedestrian. 1 TD is hardly winning that game for him. He looked good out there, but he didn't win that game. Peyton Hillis absolutely destroyed our run D. He got 5 yard gain after 5 yard gain and it demoralized our team. Cutler merely put the hurt on us later in the game if I remember correctly. He gathered the yards, 60 of which came very early when Royal (I thought clearly) stepped out of bounds, but they called it a TD anyway. So take that play out of it, and you're talking still solid yardage and 1 TD and 1 pick. A very good game for that weather, but regardless, all I'm saying is you cannot attribute that win to Cutler. No one should look back at that game and say Cutler won it. Now that the Jets are after him, it seems everyone is praising him for being the lone bright spot on Denver and elevating that team to where they're at. People have to try to look at his body of work objectively and as soon as they hear "Cutler to the Jets" they put on those green glasses. He's a very good QB, but I'm just saying, we fell for this trap before, even if it was for a much older player. Don't get sucked in by the big name. Don't throw away a ton of picks on a player that might not be worth it. If the Jets CS really do like what they have on this team (and I have to assume that they do because this isn't the secret society that Mangini brought in where everything was a lie), then let's see what we have in Clemens and Ratliff and use those picks to shore up other areas. A QB is just one piece of the puzzle...if we can get a # of other players in the draft that just make our QBs better, than that's what we need to do. Go out and get some OL, a bruising RB, a tall WR. Get these pieces in place, and the QB will have the time to throw and the talent to throw to.
So did Tyler Thigpen, Seneca Wallace and the dude from the 49ers, whoever that was, among others, including Chad. Are we going to trade a ton of value for them?
