Where are the points coming from on offense?

I don't think Ryan realizes that you need to score points in order to win. The draft needs to be all about the offense or else we may just have one of the worst offenses in the entire league.

 

I agree with everything you're saying, and I have all the same questions. I'm still on board with the extreme long shot of getting Cutler if there's even a 1% chance in hell. I'd be more than happy to give up the 17 this year and whatever our top is next year, and throw in any of our QBs. Honestly I don't see him becoming available, even with all the shit that's going on in Co, but I still think if there's a snowball's chance, they should grab him.

D wins championships, but balanced teams become a dynasty.

 

damn you started a counter thread to mine, this is bullshit!!!!!!!!:breakdance:

 

There are many things to address on this offense, the thing I dont get is why people, assume without Farve or Coles this team has the worst offense in the league, I mean some of our boys have to come out big, It's another year of experiance for some, maybe they can get better, If the FO keep it up with the DL signings then I guess a WR with the 17th wouldnt be as bad as I originally thought.

 

I still think there's time to build this offense. WR's coming out of college rarely make an immediate impact in the NFL. I look for us to add a proven guy before the season starts or in a draft day deal. I still think our WR's are not given enough credit. Cotch is a really good WR. Stuckey has pretty sure hands from what i've seen and Clowney has the speed and size to be a good deep threat. I think we lose sight of the fact that these guys are not rookies.
The position i worry about more then WR is TE. Let's be honest, Keller is not a prototypical TE. He's not a big guy. He can't block. We need help at that position big ttime. One guy will not do it. We need another pass catching TE, also. Cutting Baker was the worst move of the offseason. Look for him to have real production in N.E.
The QB situation is another area i'm not too concerned with. I believe either Ratliff or Clemens will do fine in the type of offense i think we'll be running. Heavy on the run short on the pass, with an occasional deep ball to keep defenses honest. The run heavy aspect also stresses the glaring need for a blocking TE. I can't stress this deficiency enough.
The RB's will be fine with Richardson being the x-factor. He needs to keep producing at the high level we've come to expect of him. This is a lot to ask of a guy his age but he's shown no sign, yet, of a drop off.
All in all i think if we can shore up the TE position we'll be ok offensivly. I really have confidence in our group of recievers although adding a proven #1 would be a great plus.

 

Offensively speaking we lost a QB who threw 22 TD passes and 22 INTs. We lost a supposed #1 WR. Baker at TE did nothing Keller outperformed him all season. We have at least 2 serviceable QBs on the roster,I like Ratliff our glaring need is a #1 WR at this point. Some are mentioning Boldin he could be the answer. I was a big Favre supporter and fan but what he did here wasnt all that great.

 

People forget Keller when analyzing our receiving corps, he will probably end up being our number 2 passing option this year.

 

We still have the draft, and on offense there was nobody worth shelling out the money for. Torry Holt now maybe but apparently we have no interest in him (reportedly we had no interest in Brett Favre last year either so...)

We need 1 (maybe 2) solid blocking tight ends

 

The Jets have a Ryan defense now, they don't need an offense. Leon will have one long KO return that will put them in field goal range and we will win 3-0 every week!!!

Gosh, why can't people see the obvious??

 

by what standards are they serviceable? kc played 2 years ago and SUCKED ratliff hasnt played a down in a real game. how exactly do you consider this serviceable? or is it that you WANT it to be serviceable?

bottom line is that there are unproven players all over the place on this offense. there are also proven bad players on this offense as well.

i will not rely on keller to be the top receiving threat on this team. he hit a wall last year and who is to say he wont again this year? he also still doesnt know how to block. therefore no dual threat. this team needs badly a #1 wr, it doesnt have to be a top 5 wr in the league but someone who is a number 1. it also needs a qb that can be at least consistent, scratch that consistently good, not great just good. none of our guys have proven that yet.

 

They are serviceable.......at this point and time who do you see the JETS bringing to be the starting QB for the upcoming season. Would you prefer say Leftwich or Garcia?????? Id much rather go with Ratliff or even Clemens for that matter than some journeyman has been that never was. Tom Brady was considered serviceable once in his career and given a chance look what hes accomplished.

Who would you prefer start the season as the JETS QB?

 

Last year we had one of the highest scoring offenses in Jets history. We've lost a QB that many if not most believe was done, we've lost a WR who's one concussion away from retiring and we've lost a backup TE. We have 3 QBs who will get a shot to show they can play, and if they can't we bring in a veteran. We do need a WR. Suddenly they're the worst in the league? Nonsense.

 

1. The OL is intact. Check

2. WR - Jets lost Coles. Coles who couldn't draw double team, nor get separation. Colossal loss? By no means. Jets have unproven young players on the roster, who never had the chance to prove themselves. Instead of hitting the panic button, why not give them a chance? That highly touted rookie WR is as inexperienced as any of the WRs Jets have as well, if you didn't notice yet.

3. QB - Ok... so it was Pennington or Favre. Jets ain't got any. If you have some concern about the QB position, I'd say that's about the only legitimate one. But then again, that highly touted Rookie QB is just about as experienced as any three Jets got already, if not less. If you are saying Jets should go for the likes of Byron Leftwich, I'd say you'd better be joking.

4. RB: TJ and Leon. Check

5. TE: Keller - Check. Blocking TE - may need a FA to fill this. All in all, check

6. One of the most prolific offenses NFL had last year, sans Favre and Coles (and fringe player like Baker?) all of a sudden becomes a source of concern? I don't get that logic. Burner can be found in Clowney. The slot receiver might be Stuckey's niche. Maybe, just maybe, the other wideout playing opposite Cotchery might be the tall, physical WR Jets drafted last year in Marcus Henry. Nobody knows for certain whether they will all work out or not. Either way, the new QB will have one heck of a security blanket at start in Dustin Keller and Leon - and other pieces can phase in, without too much burden on their back. If Schotty is as good as advertised, (may not be - that's the source of my concern, indeed) then he will find a way to utilize the talent Jets have on the offensive side, especially the unproven ones.

 

WR is a huge glaring need for the Jets, I still believe that they will find a way to bring in a an experienced receiver. I am thinking a draft day deal will get it done. Something along the lines where our trade partner wants to get younger at WR at the expense of a proven veteran. Waiting for draft day will allow our trade partner to make sure their target is still available when the Jets are on the clock.

I can picture this now.

"The New York Jets have traded the number 17 pick to Arizona for Boldin. Arizona is on the clock"

"With the 17th pick in the draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Kenny Britt, wide receiver Rutgers"

 

If that's the scenario, I'd go with Torry Holt.

Torry Holt + 1st round pick >> Anquan Boldin

(And you KNOW I don't even like the idea of Holt signing.)

 

Thank you for putting some sense into this BS. I don't get why people are so down on our offense. Coles gone is a plus for us. Now we finally get to see if the two youngster WR can get the job done by spending some time on the field. Keller second year could be surprising. Giving Leon more action will also be a plus.

Can either KC or the Rat play well enough to cut Bretts interceptions by half? check
Is our defense significantly better now allowing the offense to be on the field more? check
Have we gone to the draft yet? check
Is FA over? check
Do I feel 1000% more comfortable with Rex at the helm that the team will be ready to play straight up football and not outsmart themselves? double check

 

I disagree completely with this post. How can anyone say in March what the Jet offense will be come September??? What did the Jets lose? Nothing on the OL, which is the most important aspect of an offense. A good OL that opens holes and protects the passer will make any offense work. The Jet OL should be better than last year.

As for QB, Favre leaving was the best thing that happened to this team. Signing Favre was one of biggest mistakes in Jet history. Losing Favre to retirement was a relief. Favre was a below average QB last year. If the Jets find a game manager from the three young QBs, they will be fine. I'll take 15 TDs and 10 picks over the 22-22 we had last year. Plus, if the Jets find a young QB this year, think of how much improvement we'll see from the QB position in a year or two (which is why one of those guys should have played last year and come in this year as an experienced QB)

The running game is fine. Jones is not showing any signs of slowing down and Washinton is lightning in a bottle. We all know the running game will be a strength.

Which brings me to WR. What did the Jets lose from last year? Coles? Stick a fork in Coles. Cotchery is a better receiver than he played last year and will show it now that Favre doesn't haven't to placate Coles. Keller is the real deal as a receiving TE. He is a WR in a tight end body. He will only get better. Plus, it takes two or three years for receivers to mature. Check out Coles' and Cotchery's stats in their second and third years and answer me why Stuckey and Clowney can't step up??? As for Baker, what did he EVER do as a Jet? If the Jets miss Baker, something is wrong. He was a 30 catch 300 yard 3 TD tight end. That puts him in the bottom half of the NFL tight ends. The Jets can replace that easily. Keller on the other hand will put up 60-800 6 years from here on out. The Jets canfind blocking tight ends anywhere. Baker can't carry Keller's jock when it comes to receiveing.

You are also forgetting one of the most important aspects of football. The offense will benefit from the defense. Turnovers, stops, and field position will all make it easier on the Jet offense than it has been in years.

Some of you play too much Madden or fantasy football and think that the success of a team comes from star skill players when in reality games are won with defense and line play. WRs are among the least important players on the field. Calm down.

 

I agree with you 100%. I was cringing when I had that vision and started typing the response.