tyson will be the pick

We defenitly need depth on the Dline....but i believe QB/WR/S will be higher priorities in the first round.

Hypothetically, if the Jets pass on Hakeem Nicks/Matt Stafford/Sean Smith/Jeremy Maclin in favor of Tyson Jackson......there will be "homicides" in Winnipeg on draft day.

 

I have become a trade down guy... I personally am not a Tyson Jackson fan, now that said some do. I am a big Robiskie fan. However, I still think he is an early third round pick, maybe with his stellar combine, he is a late 2, meaning he is a reach at our second round pick. Again he is part of the reason I want to trade down and accumulate some extra picks. That would give us a better value selection of Robiskie. I also am an Emanuel Cook fan, I dont really like the TE selection, simply because the late rounds should really be about depth on either lines. Also I have become a big time Jasper Brinkley fan, he has to be a part of any Jets mock in my eyes.

 

I'd personally rather go Nicks/Jarron Gilbert in the first two if we go WR and DE. Jackson's good, but not worth the 17 - he's a very solid run defender, but iffy when it comes to the pass and helping to collapse the pocket. I personally feel that Gilbert would be rated much higher had he been coming out of LSU rather than San Jose St. He's the whole package and has a lot more potential; Jackson's probably maxed out his potential by this point.

And although I like Robiskie a lot and certainly wouldn't mind him in the second if we go WR in the first, I think Nicks is going to be a star in this league. He reminds me so much of Anquan Boldin coming out that it's uncanny.

 

Tyson Jackson has the most upside, since when?

Jarron Gilbert is by far the most athletic out of the top three 3-4 DEs: Hood/Jackson/Gilbert.

Hood can probably contribute the most right away - he'd be a very, very valuable rotation player as a rookie. He has the best motor out of any of the three. He's is the best against the run - he's always getting into the backfield.

Jackson looks like the prototypical 3-4 defensive end, but he becomes invisible at points in most games.

Gilbert has the most upside because of the comination of size and athleticism.

 

I don't think Tyson Jackson has too much upside.. He's very similar to Kenyon Coleman in the fact that's he's a run defender and not much else. As McElectric said, the guy with the most upside is Jarron Gilbert.

And as for the rest of the draft, I'm not a fan. We just traded for a starting CB and signed another starter at safety. Why would a third of our picks be in the secondary? I could see one later on, but that's it.

And I don't think Byrd, Vasquez or Cook will be around.

Sorry, not a fan at all..

 

You know what guys, I have it on good authority that the Jets have been hot on Jarron Gilbert's trail since January

I can't tell you who told me that, but if I did you guys would recognize the name and accept him as a very reputable source, and his exact words too me were "the Jets have been all over Jarron Gilbert for the past month and a half"

He also believes Gilbert will be drafted higher than Tyson Jackson and right now a lot of people are sleeping on that possibility, but he believes that will happen and I obviously concur since Gilbert was my #1 rated 34DE (ahead of Jackson) for quite some time

Lastly, did you guys see the National Football Post new (post combines) positional rankings?

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/nfp-prospect-position-rankings-4/

I Guess what I'm trying to say is .. don't sleep on the idea of Jarron Gilbert to the Jets at #17 Overall

Not saying it will happen, but don't discount that possibility, because the Jets know at this point Jarron Gilbert in RD 2 is a pipe dream .. NEVER HAPPEN .. if they want him they'll have to take him in RD 1, and again, according to my man (impeccable source) the Jets are all over Jarron Gilbert

Take it for what its worth

PS. Its also important to remind people this is not some workout warrior, Gilbert has worked out terrificly and dominated at the east/west shrine, no doubt about it, and his measurables are very impressive, but he was also the WAC Defensive Player of the Year in 2008, so its not all about measurables and workouts with this player

 

Good stuff Jabba...

I would definitely perfer Gilbert to Jackson. Seeing how aggressive the FO is on draft day, I wouldn't be surprised if we went with Hakeem Nicks at #17 and traded back into the bottom of the 1st or the top of the 2nd to get Jarron Gilbert..

 

I can certainly see that happening based on the drafts of the past few years. If we come out of day 1 with Nicks and Gilbert, I'll be ecstatic.

 

Yeah I dont think Jackson is the pick, we all know his specialty is the run but we were pretty good against the run last year so I see bigger needs.

 

Yeah that would be one hell of a day 1, but I don't want another 2007 where we have four total picks in the entire fuggin' draft.

 

2007's WAC Defensive Player of the Year, Fresno State's Marcus Riley, wasn't even drafted. He's the guy that knocked out Colt Brennan.

A lot of the time, the best defenders in the WAC are undersized and speedy - this is certainly not the case for Jarron Gilbert. He's 6'5 287 and still growing...I have high hopes for this kid.

 

I thought of that too. However, a trade from the mid second to the top of the second would probably cost about our third, which wouldn't be too bad.

I also trust the Jets to try and get a feel for the other teams' draft boards; this is something that I feel Tanny's been damn good at thus far. We traded in front of the Giants, who were later reported to be enamored with Keller and did the same to the Steelers in order to nab Revis. If Tanny marks Gilbert as one of "his guys" and is dead set on getting him, I'm sure he'll gauge the place to get the best value for him.

That being said, if Nicks/Gilbert is out of the picture since Gilbert is rising and he's of value at #17, I could live with Gilbert/Robiskie (maybe a trade down in the second here) if we really like him as much as Jabba is hinting at.


By the way Quack, I'm going to have nightmares about Phillip Rivers and his mouth-eyes now, thanks :breakdance:

 

Yes, I agree, that's exactly right .. its not that he was the WAC DPOTY that makes him a terrific prospect, its that he's the whole package from a physical POV "and" he was an exceptional player as well .. I only point out the WAC DPOTY to highlight the fact that Gilbert is "not" just a workout warrior and "not" just about the measurables .. both of those things are true and that's very important, but he's also a terrific football player and that's important too .. its all of that combined

But I agree if he was the WAC DPOTY, but wasn't that impressive physical specimen too, the WAC DPOTY would carry a lot less significance where it pertains to his pro prospects

 

I am hyped, so fricking hyped.

 

ahhhh Gilbert, man ive been absent minded in my posting recently. ive brought up all picks i think wed make in another thread and left Gilbert out.

Hood and Gilbert would be two picks those Jet fans that show up to the draft would be like HUH? boo! but theyd suck eachother off once camp came.

yeah basically im agreeing, Gilbert would be a solid pick.

I'm on the Maclin/Nicks bandwaggon, but DL depth in Jackson,Gilbert,Hood would be very nice. and I already know the knocks on Jackson, I'm just saying those are the top 3 3-4 DL not named BJ Raji IMO. so rank em how you will.

 

I'm seriously hoping that one of Gilbert or Hood drops to our second if we go elsewhere in the first (Nicks, Macline, Sean Smith, Vontae Davis, etc), as we desperately need some good DL depth. Either of those guys would likely supplant Coleman or even eventually Ellis in a few years if not sooner.

 

You guys are forgetting that in a good 3-4 scheme the pass rush doesn't come from the DE's. It comes from the blitzing 'backers. I think the argument regarding Jackson not being able to collapse the pocket is kind of moot. The best quality you could hope to have in a 3-4 DE is the ability to occupy more than one o-lineman and help out with run support. Both of which T. Jackson does very well.

In reality, I think it's a toss up between the top 3 DE's in this draft. I think all of them will be decent contributors in a DE rotation in their rookie year and I'd be happy with any one.

 

Jarron Gilbert

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_SxTr4jZs[/youtube]

 

He's a hell of a player. A terrific pass rusher as well as an good run defender. This guy has all the potential in the world, but it's not like he's a workout warrior as he had a tremendous senior season. If we passed on Hakeem Nicks at #17, I want him to be the pick..

And with Igor Olshansky heading to the Cowboys, watch out for Jarron Gilbert at #16 to San Diego..

I would be happy to trade up with our 2nd round pick to get Gilbert.. And given the style of Mike Tannenbaum and crew on draft day, I could really see this as a possibility..