Your going to see gholston in action next year. This is the immense difference between mangini and ryan (could they not be anymore dislike each other?) I am confident that ryan is either going to find a place for ghoslton and work him into the system, or gholston will be gone so fast that you know he truly was the bust everyone has been labeling him. (Im betting on the first one) Mangini had neither the patience nor the intellect to adjust this guy into his system. A rookie like gholston adapting to pretty much a different position needs the proper coaching. Im going out on a limb and say ryan will know how to use this guy and get him some playing time.
I hope with all my being that you're right. I just wish we had something more to go on than leaps of faith and guesses. The day he's quoted as saying something dopey like, "Can't nobody block me," THAT will be the day I know it's over.
I had an interesting philosophy on Gholston and the who Suggs comparison, since Scott and Ryan both think he's that kind of guy... suggs had one thing taught to him his rookie year - rush the passer and kill... .. thats it. There was no "read and react" there was no "well, you have to be aware of this all the time." he knew one thing, and they put more responsibility on him after his rookie year... thats what should have happened with Gholston - but then again the defensive minds that were coaching him don't know how to utilize people correctly.
The one thing that is different between the two is the speed of suggs compared to gholston. After watching some gholston tapes, his speed on the field is totally different than what his 40 time showed; Suggs is alot faster. If you watch gholstons tape on all of his sacks, most of them were bull rushes. He never really put any moves on the tackles he was facing. Also if he did beat his man with speed it was due to timing out the snap and beating the o lineman to the first step. Although this is good, I dont believe this speed will be that much better than any o linemans first step in the nfl. As optimistic as I'd like to be on Gholston I think our hopes are a lil high. I see him more on the lines of a Bryan thomas successful season rather than a suggs year (on the lines of how they play). No doubt in my mind if he masters his bull rush he can be successful like James Harrison, but if you watch how the the two play (JH and VG) there isnt anywhere near the same intensity by any means. Hopefully Ryan can indure some Fire in him but thats not something that can really be taught. You cant teach Randy moss to play with the Heart of Hines Ward just to show some comparison. (skill wise to make big plays, Yes, but to go all out and put everything on the line, unfortunately i dont see that happening).
The problem with Mangini was he tried to mold the players around the system instead of the system around the players - which is exactly where he and Rex are polar opposites. Mangini's system didn't just hurt Gholston. It affected everyone. How many times did we see K. Rhodes try to blitz from 20 yards off the ball? That's just piss-poor coaching, no way around it.
Take out the space between "in" and "action" and I agree. But seriously, this will be the year that we find out if Gholston has it or not. I'm confident Ryan can get the most out of him.
I think under the guidance of Rex and Scott, Gholston will become the player he was drafted to be. Of course he could not play with speed that Suggs has since he had Mangini's voice in his head having him check every cover, instead focusing on getting to the QB. Throw in the fact that Mangini had the weakest most predictable blitzes and the kid never had a chance
We'll probably use Gholston in a situational role, and even if he is effective, he probably won't live up to the sixth pick.
This is a great observation of Mangini. He spends so much time making guys scared to make mistakes and learn so many things that he takes away their natural ability to make plays. They play scared all the time.
He would have to start and have at least 100 tackes and 10 sacks a year to live up to the #6 pick. He is a bust through and through.
you don't know what your talking about. mangina went to "Wellesley College" the very same college bill belichick, hillary clinton and many other intelectual"s went to. it actually is a rather elite college for the brainy types. to say mangina didn't have the intellect, MAKES YOU THE FOOL!! it would be great if rex could get gholston to perform, but all signs so far have not been positive and rex ryan is not a magician, (i don't beleive, anyway). gohlston was a poor selection because if they had watched enough tape and listened to the word going around at the time of the draft, he was a major risk of being a bust because of his only ability was bull rushing!! everyone knew it, and they drafted him anyway.
The same could have been said about Marvin Jones blowing out his knees two straight years, but he came back healthy and produced for us. Gholsten wasn?t even used correctly and Manigini sheveled him, so now we will see if your assumption is accurate.
Yep. That was on the money. Of course, even though that's true, it doesn't mean Gholston will improve all that much.
So you think he showed intellect while being the coach of the new york jets? Maybe he got straight A's at school but on the football field he failed to deliver. If you want to dispute that you are more than welcome.
