Unless Sanches falls to us at #17, and maybe even if he does, we still could be looking at the same three Jets QBs to lead us as we are right now. So I watched and read on our three young guns to see who if given an equal shot would be the guy to lead this team. Since only Clemens has any Pro starts to look at and we really don't want to see them again, I stuck to their college play. 1) First I compaired our three young guns by their college starts and stats. Eric Aign is by far the best (most pollished) college QB, with the most starts, stats and wins. The other two can't come close to his 8,700 yards or 72 TDs, both against better oponents. Clemens would equal with Ratliff with each having a unique road and senior year. One kellen spent sitting most the time due to injury. Kellen only through 41 TDs while Brett through 64 TDs. Kellen had the higher completion percentage, while Brett through for more yards. Since Brett played for a smaller school and transferred his stats are somewhat questionable. 2) Now for the size and arm strength, who is the prototype pocket QB? No surprise here, Eric once agian wins. The more experienced, stronger armed and BIGGER sized QB is the leader at 6'6". Brett comes in second in size at a true 6'4", but has an arm the same as Kellen if not weaker. Kellen is the shortest at a mear 6'1.5", lightest and anything but a pocket QB, who makes things even worste for a small QB by throwing sidearm at times. Also, for a scrambling and shifty guy he is sllooowwww!!!!!! My end prediction is, I believe if given an equal chance, Eric will be the #2 QB this year behind Brett and that Eric may end up being the QB of our future. If Brett faulter this se4ason, Erics time could come quick. But for now I will place my faith in Brett! Kellen is in his last season as a Jet and all I can say is he has been a big disappointment so far and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
You may be the only person to ever claim that Ainge had a bigger arm than anyone. He's a game manager with a somewhat weak arm by NFL standards. Clemens Total stats must be looked at in perspective because he missed a good portion of his senior year when his leg was broken. Using stats the way you do to try and prove a point should be considered a crime. It is almost impossible to compair these three based on NCAA stats. They played at different schools, in different systems, against varying competition levels. Its a poor attempt at best.
1. While Erik may not possess the "Golden Arm of the Ages," he is definitely not a game-manager type of QB, a la Chad. His scouting report from various sources list his above-average arm strength as one of his pluses. The scouts must have seen something you didn't, obviously. 2. Erik looks too fragile to me - he's 6'6, but his playing weight is around 220 lbs. 220 sounds like a playing weight for 6'2, not 6'6. Naturally, his college career had been filled with nagging injury here and there. He'd have to bulk up if he wants to belong to this league. 3. Erik's worst problem is his footwork and mechanics. If he can't fix it, kiss the chance good bye. It won't come.
A lot of Eric bashers. At least no one jumped on the Kellen bandwagon. I think Brett is our man for this year and the FO rightfully gave him an extension. If the FO thought Clemens was possibly the guy, they would have gave him an extension by now. Kellen will be gone by this time next year and so will one of the Mangini's awful picks.
The Jets had to give him an extension because he was a free agent. It's not like we were just going to cut him loose, lol... Whoever Rex thinks will be the best option will win the job and it's as simple as that. Btw, It's not like our FO were the only people high on Clemens.
Nobody was high enough on him to make him a 1st round pick. Rarely, although it happens, do you find a franchise QB after the 1st round. His biggest problem as has been pointed out is that he is too short to play QB in the NFL these days. Typical franchise QBs are 6'4" or more these days. They will have to be taller in the future as DL and OL linemen are all getting bigger every year.
I want to apply for Captain of the "Eric Aigne Bashers". I saw over 75% of his college games and let me tell you. This is kid who "doesnt get it". I think these two passes best sum Ainge. On 3rd and 10 in the redzone he throws a 4 yard slant that is intercepted. And then in the second video he throws one of the worst passes of all time and losses the SEC championship. Dont talk about height and arm strength. He will never be a good QB. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6WKlk8eYgM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4U_CryYILI&feature=related Oh and comparing Clemons stats to Ratliff, who played in a spread offense is just silly.
doug flutie was 4' 7" and kicked our ass if memory serves me correctly. Even through a block on a sweep.
It happens all the time. Height isn't that important and 6'2 is definitely passable. The majority of franchise QBs are NOT 6'4+.. Brees, Bulger, Cutler, McNabb, Rodgers, Romo, Warner, etc are all under 6'4. I don't think there's a proven QB in the league who's 6'6. Lineman might be getting bigger, but stats also get inflated more and more each year so it's hard to say for sure.
Doug Flutie started his career 25 years ago (in Canada because they didn't think he was tall enough to play in the NFL). It happens but it's not what you look for when you are looking for a franchise QB.
Yeah, I know but but when you look today you look for someone like the Mannings or Rothlisberger. 6'3" gets by, 6'1" doesn't. It was obvious to anybody who watched that Clemens was running out of the pocket all the time in '07 because he couldn't see. Yeah, the line stunk but Pennington didn't have those problems with it.
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All of this will be answered by Nov this year. Since neither young man was cut and no has-been brought in, this year we will get to see who is the QB of the future.....
the first int is on the receiver, the second one is on the QB. I don't know who will be the starting QB of the Jets...
On the WR? I will admit that it was not a sharp route, but why throw into coverage way short of the 1st down while in the Red Zone. Ainge "doent get it" and there is not a rich history of QB's who "dont get it" coming to the NFL and a light going on.
not making an argument for ainge either way, really don't care (it will reveal itself in time). The evidence presented for him not being the guy (the first int) is not conclusive. If the play was called for the receiver to run a short hook, ( it looked to me like he was single covered) catch the ball and then run for the first down, it didn't work out that way. I don't know what was called. The second int, no matter who called the play, the pass should never have been thrown.
These Qb threads have already become tiresome and we've probably got another three to four months if not longer until we have a better idea who will be the starter. It will be hard, but I am going to try and focus on other issues on the team.
