Good Article From ESPN

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  1. SyracuseJet

    SyracuseJet Well-Known Member

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    good stuff. i dont like the stats that the professor dude came up with when referring to lito, hopefully he can bounce back to pro bowl shape.
     
  3. Jet21

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    good post, thanks for the article. Definitely liked what I read, gets me fired up for the upcoming season.
     
  4. ThunderbirdJet

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    That isn't a good article it is a GREAT article. Very balanced, talking about what Sheppard brings, and the fact that he has struggled the past two years. It presented both the upside and downside of the moves the Jets have made, and is easilly the most intelligent, informed article I've read in a loooooong time.

    Sheppard wasn't happy in Philly, and did that affect his play? The injuries, and the numbers, he's been torched the past two years. But, can he return to pro bowl form on a new team in a different situation?

    I also loved the comments here:

    "I know their sack numbers weren't bad last year, but they weren't a consistent pass-rushing team," Scouts Inc. analyst Matt Williamson said. "If you're a 3-4 defense and not bringing those edge guys consistently, you're not doing what that defense is designed to do.

    "As the season went on, they were predictable. Everyone knew where the pressure was coming from. They played a lot more coverage instead of coming after quarterbacks. That was crucial mistake. It won't be now.



    There is a clear condemnation of Mangini... and please don't blame Sutton, he was Mangini's puppet, just doing what Mangini's strings made him do. It's only now we find out that it was Mangini who kept Clowney off the field. Mangini had his hand in EVERYTHING, even more so on the defense. He was always yapping at Sutton on the sideline. That wasn't to get Sutton's opinion, he was telling Sutton what to do. The simple fact that Sutton was retained only solidifies my opinion. He took all the heat for Mangini's mistakes.
     
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    cornerback in my opinion as well as experience is the toughest poisiton on the field. Period. if Lito's skills are diminished it will show. you can only compensate so much with help over the top. a real OC will design a game plan to take advantage of that weakness and expose him just as Lowry was expose last year. if we can get to the qb im sure between he an lowry we can maintain coverage long enough to create turnovers, incompletions and sacks.
     
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    A positive note on Lowery too. I am a fan of his and think he took too much critism considering he was a rookie 4th round pick playing opposite Revis. I think he acquitted himself very well and he still has a bright future.
     
  7. Jets n Boys

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    What the hell man... Can't we just simply copy paste an article? Some users don't get to see the links.

     
  8. Br4d

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    There was nothing wrong with Lowery last year that a consistent pass rush wouldn't have fixed. The fact is that any average to above-average corner is going to be toast if he's left out on an island with the QB given a lot of time to pick his targets and throw.

    I'd rather the Jets had made a major move for Julius Peppers than signed Lito Sheppard. The first move would have improved the defense across the board whereas the second is just status quo.
     
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    two problems with that article: Kerry Rhodes is not more suited to a strong safety role and Leonhard will again play a role not QUITE suited for his measurables. And two, the suggestion that Leonhard is a ballhawk, at least in the sense I understand it - good at interceptions - is laughably inaccurate. So now, IS it a good article? (Honestly, yes, but still, espn is some shoddy shit these days)
     
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    I think its a fair assessment
     
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    I think they should have said he is always around the ball, as opposed to calling Leonhard a ballhawk. In this defense, as I expect it to work, neither Rhodes or Leonhard will be true SS or FS. They will both be in the box at times, they will both do some blitzing, although Rhodes shouls see much more of that than Leonhard.

    On the whole.... show me a better article written in the past month on the Jets.
     
  12. SyracuseJet

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    That's what your here for.
     
  13. vilmatic

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    lick finger, notch one in air.
     
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    very sound balanced article ....thanks for posting.
     
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    If Rex likes ball hawks he's gonna love Lowrey. Thats exactly why he was drafted, because the guy is always around the ball.
    I can't help but feel with Rex coaching this kid, he's gonna be off the charts. WATCH.
     
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    "
    That's where Leonhard comes in. Williamson called him "Ed Reed Light" to describe how Ryan likely will use him.

    "Leonhard deferred to Reed," Williamson said. "But Leonhard's skill set is more of a free safety. He runs well. He isn't real, real big. You don't want him in the box, but that's what Kerry Rhodes does well."

    This makes a lot of sense. I am not a Leonhard believer, but it makes sense that he will do better as a midget free safety than he did as a midget strong safety. With Ed Reed on the team there is no way Leonhard would be given the job of ball hawking, maybe that's what he's good at. At 5'8'', what he's good at is not going to be the things usually associated with a strong safety.
     
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    Joyner noted Lowery's stats were respectable. With Revis on the other side, teams threw at the rookie 82 times. Among all NFL cornerbacks, that was tied for the 17th-most passes faced. Lowery allowed 51 completions or penalties for a 7.1-yard average per attempt.


    fuck the skeptics.


    Revis is the 1.
    Lowery and Lito battle for 2.
     
  18. Section 227. Row 5

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    I totally agree. Great article, and I read into it the same slam on Mangini. It's about time somebody pointed out how misused our 3-4 was.

    Mangini learned just enough from BB to convince Woody and Tanny that he might have assimilated the entire enchilada, but the truth is he never had the complete package to make it work. BB is not only a master at getting the right people on the field and getting the most out of them, he's a master at putting that all together in concert with the correct playcalling, something Mangini exhibited was a severe shortcoming.

    This author nails those inadequacies while explaining the key differences this new CS brings to the table. Add these new players to the mix and combine it with good, aggressive playcalling and the recipe is bound to give us a top-ranked defense bar none.
     
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    ""I know their sack numbers weren't bad last year, but they weren't a consistent pass-rushing team," Scouts Inc. analyst Matt Williamson said. "If you're a 3-4 defense and not bringing those edge guys consistently, you're not doing what that defense is designed to do."

    I wish Mangini had read that. His idea of running the 3-4 was to everybody step back 10 yards off the line and pray.
     
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