I love Nicks as a guy who can come in and be good for us overall. But I have to say Robiskie can come in and do the exact same thing for us. He in my mind would pick it up faster, and he can be had after a trade down. thus increasing the number of picks we have and number of guys we can draft, to fill our depth needs and other holes
I'd take Nicks over Britt. I could see Tannenbaum using the 3rd we got from New Orleans (possibly packaging it with our 2nd) to get a late 1st to position ourselves for Nicks, similar to how he moved up for Keller.
He has OK size, OK speed but not really exceptional in either category. Excellent productivity at Oklahoma. He looked good catching the ball at the Senior Bowl until he had to match up against the DB in agressive man-to-man. Then he really struggled. Which suggests he won't be a #1 but maybe a slot in the NFL. I'd guess he'll go around the third round.
Ran a 4.63 at the combine. Just goes to show how stupid 40 times are. Game speed is much more important and can't be measured at the combine.
maclin and nicks are my favorite . i like maclins versatilty as a return specialist and him being such reliable reciever too is great, specially him coming out as a soph being so young.hell only get better. Maclin also is a high character player, his mother had drug problems and he literally left her to live with his HS Coaches family who was all white. said it helped him see from a different perspective and at the same time he felt for his mom.said he now has two familys kids a great story and great player nicks, good size and athleticism, tough after the catch and probably the best hands in this draft.
The 4.63 time for Fitz is widely reported but not well documented. Here are NFLDraftScout's info on the Pro Day for Fitz LARRY FITZGERALD... weighed in at 6031, 221 pounds... which was four pounds lighter than at the Combine... ran between 4.48 and 4.51 in the 40... fastest clock was 4.46 and the slowest was 4.54... 4.28 short shuttle... 6.94 Those are excellent times for a guy his size. Which would be consistent with his play on the field.
I thought the same thing regarding depth because we could be minus Barton and are already minus Kassell and Bowens. But I have read that the team apparently really likes Jason Trusnik, who did make a few nice plays in spare time last season, and Kenwin Cummings, who was a Preseason/training camp standout. So this could account for some depth. Well David Harris is one starter. And if we can't get Bart Scott or Ray Lewis (Not a Ray Lewis in green fan, but it might happen anyway), then we need to resign Barton for depth AT LEAST since he's still a good ILB in my opinion. Then we need to draft a guy by in the early to mid rounds as a potential heir to Barton. Then throw in Trusnik and Cummings as potential depth guys and you have a decent ILB group IMO. So to me it looks like either one of the following: - Harris | Barton | ROOKIE (Early/Mid - Brinkley/W. Williams/Phillips) | Trusnik | Cummings OR - Harris | Lewis or Barton | ROOKIE (Mid/Late) | Trusnik | Cummings Hah.. This has become an ILB discussion. But as for Nicks.. Yeah... He's NFL ready and a complete player with medicore speed, which means little to me because he has everything else you could want in a WR minus that including physicality, great hands, route running etc... He's my choice at #17 over any WR in the draft. Oh except maybe Crabtree, but I still suspect the Seahawks will have trouble passing on him at #4, and every team from #4 to #8 could use a top-flight WR as well.
Exactly. Big difference in pads and in game. He looked pretty damn fast when he broke free for those big scores in the Eagles and Steelers playoff games..
Hakeem Nicks I hope is there target. I just believe he is going to have the best career out of this WR class A guy like Maclin would be perfect for a team like Indy or the Saints, but I think he would struggle here. At least in the beginning. But a guy like Hakeem I believe makes a QB look better.
If you really believe he's going to be a great player in this league, which I personally do, then you shouldn't feel the need to move down to say, #22 in order to take him...
No I just think there will be a few recievers there at that spot that are as good. Why not try to pick up a second rounder? Calculated risk. If Rey M. is there, I'm not taking anyone else.
I agree that you shouldn't be afraid to take him if you believe that he will be great, but if you can move back, get a few extra picks, and still grab him it would be worth it.
I am not high on Rey. People seem to think that he is going to be a two down linebacker in the NFL. He is stout against the run, but struggles covering TEs and RBs in coverage. Considering that this was one of the biggest problems we had last year (along with WRs on short routes over the middle), I wouldn't target an ILB who struggles in that area.
This is fine, but don't forget that the Bears (18) and Buccaneers (19) will also be heavily in the market for a WR. Move down further and you would see more teams interested. So he may be off the board at #18 to the Bears. A trade down would be too big of a risk. And we wouldn't be getting a 2nd round pick to move back a few spots anyway. We would be looking at a 3rd rounder at best... Not worth it with the threat of a couple teams taking a WR right ahead of us at 18 and 19. Plus it's always tough to find a trade down partner anyway. But if Josh Freeman is on the board, it would give us a good chance. I say we should just stick where we are and take Nicks for this reason.
I guess Nicks has to be the guy i would have liked a rb in McCoy but now we have too many needs to draft pretty much the bpa at our spot. Nicks isnt a bad a option though even though i would have preferred a faster guy like Maclin if we kept Coles, but now Nicks should definitely be the pick.
Nicks or Britt would be a great choice at 17 but with all the signing the JETS are doing, we will just have to wait and see. I personally would like to get CB Alphonso Smith but Lito Sheppard looks as though he will fill the position well for the JETS.
OK. Assume we acquire Lito Sheppard and sign Jim Leonhard.. Then wide receiver MUST be the target at #17..