He is a big guy who will be hard to take down. Like a rothlesburger. Good passer and he could be that diamond in the rough the Jets need. Lets not forget Angie the kids put up good numbers in a good conference in college. The Jets could already have the QB they need.
I said this earlier...in one of the 72 other Josh Freeman threads. This post is for all of you that keep drooling over his stat progression...
It all depends on what he does at the combine. If Sanchez falls to 17 or Freeman in the second rd we MIGHT get them.. otherwise i'm pretty sure we'll draft a QB next year.. this year we have bigger needs.
I'm not sure if I'd want to risk the future of this franchise...passing on Mark Sanchez for a cornerback or a wide receiver could cause huge problems in a couple of years. Oakland Raiders type problems...
I think Freeman is a hit or miss qauterback although it sort of reminds me of big ben with his body size, and his arm strength. Depending on the right system is believe he will be a productive qb for the jets i personally would only think about taking him if he was there for a 2nd round pick. If he was there for our 3rd I would not let him pass by but i dont see that happening'
Agreed Electric, there is no player we should pass on Sanchez for. If Malcolm Jenkins falls, that's different, but nobody in that 15-20 range is worth passing on Sanchez for.
Accuracy can absolutely be taught. Quick case in point, Tom Brady. He was not an accurate passer earlier in his career. There was a reason he was picked so late. Look at Matt Cassell as the season developed. Eli Manning improved as well. Peyton too.(He is now the most accurate QB I have ever seen, ahead of Troy, dead even with Marino). Things that can't be taught: study habits, work ethic, heart, superior arm strength, athleticism, and competitiveness. The Jets have to find out which of these he has.
^ Tom Brady was a terrible example. College Stats:http://stats.ath.umich.edu/football/cmaster.php?pkey=83 NFL Stats: http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/profile?id=BRA371156 around 62.6% his entire life. Accuracy is tough to teach, because its about the release and timing - which not everyone has, and its what they all want.
Accuracy can be improved with work, but your not about to take a guy who's wildly inaccurate and make him a pin point passer. No one is about to make Ryan Leaf an accurate thrower. Peyton Manning is the all all time passing accuracy leader at Tennessee. He may have become better once in the pros, but was very good to begin with. Matt Cassell was the exception to just about every rule this season. He is about as bad an example as one could use. Eli Manning leans heavily on his league best running attack to get things done. He is a good QB but not a great one. The Giants are a good example of winning with a mediocre QB. This year he finally got his picks down and completions up a bit. Not all his improvement can be attributed to improved throwing accuracy. Its much more likely better reading of defenses, a great running game forcing more attention to the groud attack, and taking less chances with the football.
The numbers lie. How many of those passes were 2 yarders? He had terrible accuracy down field, I saw it live with my own eyes. Why do you think Weis came up with that passing game specifically for Brady? They never ran those plays with Drew.He had a strong live arm, but he took time to get accurate downfield. Short passing game skews those numbers.
The year the Giants won the SB, they brought in a former head coach to work specifically with Eli on his accuracy. He improved by leaps and bounds. I forget his name, but I think he was a young guy who coached the Browns. I heard Eli talk about all the different drills he did in the off season with him to improve. I don't think Freeman is wildy inaccurrate, over 60% as a junior and 58% as a senior. He does need to improve.
You can certainly teach accuracy more than arm strength. The pure arm strength guys like he and Stafford have are something guys like Harrell will never have. I'm not saying that Freeman will have Harrell-accuracy, but he can be tamed and taught to use all his tools correctly.
We've seen what a weak arm and great accuracy can do in a guy like Chad. Everyone knows the story of guys like Jeff Geroge and Ryan Leaf that have huge arms and were awful QB's. I don't know much about freeman, but taking a raw passer with some tools leaves a lot to be desired in the first two rounds. Derek Anderson is 6'6" and 250+. He also happens to be an awful QB with a strong arm that is wildly inaccurate with his throws. I want no part of drafting a guy just because he's big. If its between taking Freeman at 17 or a CB/S type i would go with the defensive player at this point. We need a franchise QB, but outside of one of the top two prospects falling to us (stafford or sanchez) I would rather wait on spending a high pick on a QB. Reaching on a mediocre talent because of a need is a good way to ruin a draft in a hurry.
You may think Eli's accuracy went up in the superbowl year, but stats do not back you up at all. His completeion % dropped by 1.6% to a not that good 56.1% for the season. His interception total climbed by 2 to end at 20 picks vs 23 TD's. Not stellar numbers by any means. Add to that his awful 6.3 YPA and you get a mediocre QB that won a SB. That run was more about running the ball and defense as opposed to QB play. He actually improved on those numbers this year to have his best season, stats wise, as a pro. This past season was his first time he threw under 17 picks in a single season. He also threw under 500 attempts for the first time this year. Eli is a good QB, not a great one. He will never be of his borthers skill of a passer. He just happens to be on a much better all around team then the Colts were in thier SB year. Mick hit on it with the release and timing comment. I'd add footwork to that mix as well when it comes to getting the ball to the right spot on the right time. If accuracy is so easy to teach why do so many NFL caliber QB's still have problems with it? One would think it would have been throughly taught to them by this point.
Accuracy is easy to improve, hard to perfect, even with hard work. Case in point, Donavan McNabb, he has become a much better downfield thrower but falls into bad habits. Especially when he gets tired. Don't compare Eli to Peyton. Eli plays in the windiest stadium in the league, Peyton plays in a dome. Those numbers don't tell the whole story. He was a different QB after the Minnesota game(4 picks,I think, in that game). I was using him as an example of improved accuracy because he improved on long passes, which I think is easy to see if you watch alot of games. If I use someone as an example, I don't necessarily love the player. They just fit the hypothesis.
