How are the stats useless? They are the best indicator of performance and they actually work in your favor because his stats were largely in part set up by run game. He did not take over any games and piled up stats in the NE game in garbage time. He wasn't impressive at all. We all know how much you love 6'1 195 sub 4.4 speed WRs but by now you should know how overrated 40 times are. He will do nothing in the NFL. Without a doubt Jam Russell is not a franchise QB as per his play so far in the NFL you delusional paint-sniffing homer.
What's funny is that when the Raiders did have that success earlier this decade they did so with a generally veteran team. Now Joe is caught up on the idea that youth = success and experience = mediocrity while they've had one of if not the worst 6-year stretch of any team in NFL history. Go figure.
Tampabay Raiders didn't run the ball that effective. Your just looking at the end of the game stats and trying to come up with a conclusion all wrong.. (just like your other bogus theories) M Bush went off in the fourth quarter against a worn out defense, that Jamarcus Russell was a big part of wearing down. Raiders were in that game because of Russell and not the running game. Go to NFL .com play by play. Woody and faneca are pretty good run blockers who couldh't block my ninety year old grandma rushing the passer. There is a reason Raiders Dline beat the crap out of favre, Brett favre back at QB was a big reason for Jet sucess in the running game. Teams respecting his arm couldn't cheat up. Only till they found out that Brett couldn't throw deep that it put a big strain on Jets running game. I guarantee T Jones and Jets running game going to take a major step back next year. With inexperienced Qb they are going to dare Jets to bedat them with the pass.
Get a clue. IF M Bush(Only healthy RB Raiders had) had somewhere close to 140m yards in fourth quarter and your interpreting that Raiders were effective running the ball all game. When in fact that wasn't the case. Your obviously not intrepting the stats correct(your data is compromised) You just have to do better job researching the data. Don't assume by the stats. Without looking at the data closer. Or you will make an arse out of your self . Just like now. 13 carrys 137 yards in fourth quarter for M Bush.
I did look at the play by play. First three drives were 3 & out. First touchdown drive (2nd Quarter) play selection was 6 runs and 1 pass culminating with a M Bush TD run. Next drive 3 & out. Next drive 3 runs and 3 pass with short TD by Russell (one legit drive by Russell all day). 3rd quarter. First two drives are 3 & out. Next drive Jam Russell INT. Next drive major play is Pass Interference against Tampa on HB option play culminating with short TD pass by Jam Russell. Next drive is 67 yd run by M Bush 0 passes. Final drive is 9 straight runs by M Bush and one delay of game penalty vs Russell culminating in a FG. So let's see, that's ONE DRIVE showcasing any sort of rhythm established by Russell. 14 completions total all set up by the run. Thanks for playing.
You were just proven wrong. Be a man and admit you didn't look at the stats correctly. You assume after seeing M Bush 177 yards that Raiders had the running game all game long. Again Russell stats speak for themselve. Raiders arent in the game without Russell. Go look what J gruden thought of Jamarcus Russell performance. Again don't talk out of your arse because Im too good fo0r that.
YOU were just proven wrong. Here are the drive charts you fuckin' imbicile. There it is. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playb...yPage=tab_play_by_play&season=2008&week=REG17 Everything I just said is according to the official play-by-play at NFL.com. YOU be a man and admit you are wrong for once in your God foresaken life. The run set up the pass all day long cockbreath. "you didn't look at the stats correctly" he says... LMFAO hahahahahahaha
You know it's february, cause the raiders got the super bowl locked up, and the whole pro bowl is the raiders vs. the NFC. I honestly miss this hypocrisy and delusion when its week 3 and the raiders are failing miserably, then their one blind supporter who has been talking shit since february disappears into the Autumn Wind just like his team. Gonna stay on the board past October this time Jeaux?
Learn the game. You Pencil neck geek. You don't know what your talking about 13 carryts by bush in the fourth quarter for 137 yards . Bush finished with 177 yards. Do the math you idiot. 40 yards for three quarters. Raiders didn't throw the ball alot, but when they did they were big throws . LEARN THE GAME. Go to a Tampabay web site. Actually get opinion of someone who saw the game.
I did do the math. 14 total completions all day by J Russell for a measly 148 yds. I just broke the game down for you now acknowledge it you fuckin POS. You see the play selection and the results in front of your eyes. Russell had five passes over 10 yds the entire game ahhahhaahahhahahaha. But yeah he took it over and won it for you guys....
Dude i saw the game. I know what russell finished with.Im the one that told you asshole where to find the stat. He made some impressive passes that game. Even though he only completed 14 passes . The point was you assumed the running game was working all game long. Raiders were in that game because of Russell and his presence was big reason why Bush was able to run off 137 yards in fourth quarter. You didn't see the game and your trying to come up with an opinion just off of stats. You can't do that in football it dosen't work.
See that's not what happened according to the drive charts. According to the play by play each successful drive was set up by the run and each stalled drive was a result of misfires by Jam Russell. The first TD drive was 6 runs and 1 pass; second TD drive was 3 runs and 3 pass; next TD drive was setup by a pass INT on HB option; next TD drive was one long run; and last FG drive was 9 runs. You are right you can't base an opinion on the game just off stats, but you CAN figure out what was and wasn't working based off the stats. Jam Russell's 148 yds was set up by the run, and he only had 5 passes over 10 yds the whole fuckin game. But if that to you indicates he will be a franchise player, I guess you got more problems to worry about than the Raiders' roster next year. I'm stepping away for a bit, we will continue this later because I don't expect you to ever admit you are wrong.
thats not it.... but you'll never accept truth if the Raiders aren't shed in a positive light..... here's a positive light on this team
Let me ask you a question are these stats Hall of fame worthy. 143 Games played 3762 Attempts , Completions 1886 Yards 27,663 50.1 % completion percentage TD 173 Interception 220. NOw I ask you going by those stats is that a franchise QB or a hall of famer.
A lot more than that... the dude did so much for the league and a culture back in the day... never about stats, but don't tell Marino or Raider fans that its not about stats.
Of course instead of conceding defeat about the Jam Russell debate he just tries to throw Jet underachievment in our faces when the convo had nothing to do with NYJ. RaiderJoe sucks.
