-Rookie of the year in 2004 -one pro-bowl selection -two time superbowl champion -51-20 regular season record - 8-2 record in the playoffs - 19 4th quater comeback wins - 89.4 % passing rating - 101/69 td/int ratio - 14,974 passing yards - Won superbowls with two different head coaches - 26 years old
Roethlisberger is a winner. He's one of those guys that doesn't know how to lose - much like Tom Brady.
Ben just won the Superbowl...going through a season with the toughest schedule, injuries, and basically a patchwork o-line. Plus he has all the intangibles...he's big, he's mobile, cannon arm, and his age (his best years are still ahead). I think the Steelers got the "steal of the draft" when Ben dropped to them at #11 in the 2004 draft....he's clearly better than Rivers (maybe not statistically...but....all he does is win games) and Eli the fraud (who's NOTHING without Burress).
He's a clutch QB. When the pressure is on and the game is on the line he almost always makes something happen. This is a guy you definitely want behind center when the game is on the line. I don't care what his stats are.
Big Ben is an amazing pure football player and as said before, a clutch QB. He wins games. And wins are the only real stat that matters. 26 years old and already he is elite in the sense that the word matters. I'd take him over all but a healthy Tom Brady.
I put Ben right behind Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees. He is really good. Like some have said, he is a winner. But its not like he put the team on his shoulder and led them to victory in either Super Bowl. With the Jets defense, Roethlisberger has 0 Super Bowl titles.
I would take Ben over Brees any day of the week. Did you miss Ben's 4th quarter comeback in the superbowl? Or the fact that his offensive line couldn't block anyone?
WTF?...Did you watch the superbowl this past Sunday, NYJ2K09?? Ben lead the game winning drive with less than 2 mins to go.....
His first Super Bowl you can say that he had a team around him and all he had to do was play as much mistake free football as possible. Good defense and a strong running game to help the rookie along. But you cannot possibly say that about his this year with the list of injuries... and the Super Bowl, which apparently you didn't watch, he did just that - put the team on his shoulders and made plays. It is hard to argue that this guy isn't the man.
He blew plenty of opportunities in the first half. If not for the pick 6 they would not have even been in the position to win it at the end. Giving Ben credit for this win would be crazy.
man, i understand you're entitled to your opinion...and that's fine...but saying Ben doesn't deserve credit for the Super Bowl win is totally assinine. If Leftwich is playing in that last 2 mins instead of Ben....the Cards would be world champs. I know that's just an assumption, but i'm going with the trends on this one.
I like Ben. He is a good quarterback. I feel he is being given too much credit though. I love his ability to keep the play going. I just feel its a team game and Big Ben gets too much credit when he is blessed to have such a great team around him. The defense I mean. He is also as tough as nails for taking all those hits behind a crappy O-line.
The defense is great, but the defense was great when Kordell Stewart, Niel O'donnel, Mike Tomzack were all there as well. All of those guys had much better offensive lines. The Steelers had no running game and no offensive line and yet Ben finds ways to move the ball.
This is a funny argument because I am saying Big Ben is the fourth best QB in the league. Thats pretty good. I just feel Santonio Holmes really stepped it up at the end of the game and Ben missed opportunities to rap the game up early. Ben deserves some credit for the final drive, but Holmes deserves most of it.
I can see how an argument could be made for the Steelers defense as being part of Big Ben's success as a WHOLE in his career. But what the guy did in the final minutes of the SB was amazing. It took a perfect throw and a perfect catch to beat the Cardinals and he did his part. He is definitely up there with the best of them. I've never really seen a QB stiff arm defenders and scramble left, right, gain his composure and hit a receiver down the field like he does. He's just so tough to bring down. Manning and Brady usually have a good amount of time in the pocket and/or move away from the rush. But Big Ben is on another level in making plays. Guy is a complete QB. He is a winner. And at age 26, imo, already a future HOFer.
