Is Cassel even a possibility?

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  1. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want Scott Mitc, oh i mean Matt Cassell!
     
  2. Italian Seafood

    Italian Seafood New Member

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    We need to lose the Patriot envy already. Mangini is gone, my favorite thing about Rex Ryan is he has nothing to do with the Patriots and all that mess. We both missed the playoffs, we hate them, good. Their best players responsible for all the winning are getting old, just leave it. End the Border War era, it's been a shitty one for us.
     
  3. tomdeb

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    could've said it better--we got 3 young qbs--give em a chance. The grass is always greener...
     
  4. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    WTF is with all this Cassel love? Have you guys seen this fuck play? He can't make any reads or long throws down the field despite having semi-decent arm strength to get it there.

    Instead of his checks he waits for the pocket to clear and takes off on a QB draw up the gut. He is not very good.

    Edit: Plus any QB can win in that system, that's how BB structured it, the loss of a major player can't affect the structure of the team. It was evident especially last season with Cassel at QB and the defense depleted. Also, last I heard he was getting the franchise tag!
     
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  5. joesmoe39

    joesmoe39 Active Member

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    absolutely one of the dumbest post i've read lately. they were 11-5 with him stating this year and will only get better with a full season under his belt. not to mention, the offensive weapons they have.
    then of course, there is that other qb. if he plays they go right back to the top of the division. no doubt in my mind on that one.
    how you figure they will be a .500 team is laughable, unless lightening strikes 4 or 5 times next year against them again, which is more a prayer than reality.... you gotta hate'em, but they aren't fading anytime soon....
     
  6. joesmoe39

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    you sir, are a glutten for punishment!!
     
  7. joesmoe39

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    i have the sunday ticket, and did not watch much of cassel in the first half of the season because i thought the pats were toast. then i watched all the games in the second half and you guys are wrong to think the guy isn't any good and a "product of the system". all teams have a system, thats one of the dumbest quotes i hear people use.

    for one, cassell has a big arm, just not accurate on the long balls yet! don't forget, he's only played one season.

    cassell played on a team that won 11 games and it wasn't just because of some system or all due to the talent around him. some yes, not all.

    and anderson blows monkey balls. you intrigued by anderson, yet cassells stats and play are way better than anderson's. plus cassell can scramble with the best of them and has made many big plays with his legs.

    all and all, cassell is much better than some are giving him credit for. his season was as good as ryan's or flacco's, and stats wise, he was better than both. i'd take cassell in a heart beat over anything that is presently on this team now... he's not a world beater, but he's not a slouch either.. better than most i would say, especially since he hadn't played since high school. give him another year or two and he'll be better than most..
     
  8. NYJetsMan7

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    No more Patriot players or coaches please!!
     
  9. Jets n Boys

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    Oh please...CARR is appealing to anyone on this board??? God I hope not.
     
  10. Jets n Boys

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    I don't get this "product of the system" bs by the fans. We act like we know exactly what we are talking about. Fact is, we only know as much as the media feeds us and we all know media will make up shit to sell shit.

    Coaches know much better than anyone outside the teams. Product of system??? What if u land in lets say Philly, and play at an elite level? Still a product of system? I don't care what the system has to offer, but it is the QB that has to eventually make those plays.

    One last question. How come Matty Guiterez (whatever NE QB) never became a "Product of System"?
     
  11. APK 8

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    When I talk about a big arm, I don't mean the ability to throw a long bomb. Even below average arm strength QB's can throw long. Chad never had a problem getting the ball deep, especially when santana moss was around.

    The big arm needed is for those mid range throws over the middle, deep outs and throwing a fastball into tight spots. This is where Cassell didn't convince me he is a great quarterback.

    i would be very nervous about spending big $$$ on a quaterback who has been in the same system for 5 years and has produced only one good season.

    Yes, Anderson is intriguing. If I am the Jets, I am at the very least going to break down film on Anderson. Let's see why he is inaccurate and throws so many interceptions. If there are factors that can be corrected, he could be worth a shot. If the staff doesn't like they way he plays, then pass on him and go with the in house quarterbacks.
     
  12. APK 8

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    True enough, but in Cassel's case, we don't know if his skills fit well into the Patriots offense and if he'd be able to be that productive in a different offense. And that's a big chance you are taking if you going to spend the upwards of $20 million it will take to get him.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Those certainly aren't the only options.
     
  14. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    He?ll cost a lot of money, and some Draftpicks, and we don?t even know what we get. And I don?t think he?s a franchise-QB, I?d pass.
     
  15. APK 8

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    There aren't a lot of quality quarterbacks available. Rex Grossman, Byron Leftwich a few others.
    Maybe they'll use a first day pick on a QB.
     
  16. LoyalJetsFan

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    Don't want him. He's a product of the system, and manages the game well. With our luck, we sign him and he blows out his Achilles a la Vinny in the first game on the first snap next year.
     
  17. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    Cassell will be the starting QB on the Pats for years to come. Get a grip they aren't getting rid of him, Brady may well be done.
     
  18. Jtuds

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    First of all, the Pats have announced that they are keeping Cassel. Plus, why do you want him? He has played one season behind an awesome O-line and he had Welker and Moss. Put him on a team without all that and there is zero guarantee that he'll do anything close to what he did this season. This is the sort of illogical thinkng that long-tie fans shoudn't be falling in to.

    Secondly, I have seen the Cards' backup's name butchered before, but Leinhardt? Wow. Dude, it's Leinart.......LEINART.
     
  19. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    I've been thinking about this, and if Ryan is planning on going the "game manager QB" route, then Cassel might not be so bad. If he's leaving the offense up to Shot, then no.
     
  20. Greatful Jethead

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    Nothin worse than a know it all jackass. Excuse my spelling but you obviously knew who I was talking about. So apparently I got my point across. As for Cassel staying get your head out of your ass and read anything coming out of New England. If Brady's knee is fine they will shop Cassel for a high draft pick. Next time I need a spelling lesson I will write you until then don't bother commenting on anythoing I write. Don't need your opinion . Jak as
     

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