"keeping Shotty means keeping BF since Favre would not accept learning another new O" I agree. Favre never even wanted to learn the old O. The first thing he did when he got here was tell everyone our O was "too complicated," and basically wanted the playcalling turned into sandlot football. Favre's excuse for this at the time was that he had come here late and wanted it all simplified. But as time went on, it became apparent all Favre wanted to do here was play on Sundays, period. Don't ask him to learn much, study much, or spend quality time with his receiving corps to develop the "chemistry" he so talked about at the microphone. He "didn't want to put in the time," as Rhodes put it, after the seaosn had melted down. If we bring back Favre you'll have more of the same... maybe worse... alienation from the other key offensive players and a relentless unwillingness to teach the old dog new tricks. I know his experience dictates he's still the best choice we've got, but we really do need to take our chances and go in another direction. If that means struggling a year or two between Clemens and Ratliff and Boller or whomever until we find the next Tom Brady, so be it. I just will not be able to take another 8-3 season and watch it get pissed away with 9 INTs in the last 5 games. No freakin' thank you.
Gee, it's funny how all these rumors come out after the fact and put all the blame on the party that's been fired and try to absolve the guy the organization is for some reason desperate to keep. Must be a coincidence. Not buying it. Schotty sucks.
Right on--this is exactly the kind of propaganda one would expect in this situation--why not blame the defensive calls on EM too? What if someone printed that Sutton was overruled? Would he be good to keep? I'm not even going to take into consideration Alio's report since he does not describe what the arguments were about. For instance, was it Shott stating that EM was over-ruling him too much and costing us games? Or was it EM telling Shott that he better get his act together? Also, Shott mentioned after game 14 that he needs to start calling better plays.
I hadn't read this story of yours, but I'm a buyer. It makes sense to me. Schottenheimer started out with sound sound judgement and aggressive playcalling. Then Pennington's injury hamstrung him for awhile. But then what happened, especially after Favre came and we went to 8-3? Things changed offensively. It smells too much of Mangini getting to 8-3 and then going conservative as well as, for lack of a better word, "fancy"... wanting to fool defenses instead of relying on the solid football that got us to 8-3. Working our strengths and exploiting their weaknesses.
If Schotty sucks, why did Tannenbaum and Woody fire Mangini and be "for some reason so desperate to keep" Schotty? That alone doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it.
I'm not sure if this is a tongue-in-cheek, facetious comment, but how do we know he didn't do exactly that to some degree? Tanny: "Hey, Brian... a want a word with you. What was up with those fucked up calls you sent in in the fourth quarter?" Schotty: "You'll have to ask Eric, Mike. That's all I can tell you."
Schotty must have blackmail pictures of Woody. The man has an unlimited supply of baby oil and who knows what he's doing with it. It was slightly tongue-in-cheek, but you make a good point.
Along those same lines I made a point a few weeks back that perhaps Schottenheimer was the reason Woody and Tanny had been considering firing Mangini weeks before the season the ended, as they said in the press conference.
That?s because he called all of the plays Thursday; that?s why when the plan wasn?t working after the first quarter on Sunday we were totally fucked. "Stay the course" - Mandoofis
My big fear is that we're trying extra hard to rehabilitate and either keep or promote Schotty Jr. all as part of the Brett Favre return and revival plan. I've got two words for that: Bah!!!
Well, maybe everyone who wants Schotty gone will get their wish. It's all speculation anyway and what we say or think really doesn't matter anyhow.
Badger on lsd I bet you tell your boss what to do all the time right ? yea ok & if by the super slim chance you are that person who is lucky enough to do it you are in the 1% of the public that can most guys are worried about losing there job cause they have familys to provide for
Probably the same reason they say they want Brett Favre to come back. I'll be damned if I know what that reason is however.
If Schotty is as good as so many people believe he is, he should have no problem finding a great paying job on another team.
I doubt it's the same reason. I am ambivalent about Favre coming back, but I would be happy to see Schott leave. If there's a tie in I assume it is that the O and playbook, or at least the core of the playbook, would remain the same if both came back, and that could help Favre. I get that, but still see benefit if Schott leaves. And of course the core of the playbook would probably remain if Schott stayed even if Clemens or Ratliff were the Qb.
