Florida are the National Champs. Do I think they're the best? No. You can make your agument for Florida being the best and I don't have an issue with it...But USC, Utah, Texas can also make arguments...Texas being the weakest. Oklahoma shot themselves in the foot last night due to BAD coaching, and if they did come out with the W...I wouldn't think they're the best team in the Nation either. Just the system we're in.
I think we can all agree we need a playoff. AND the PAC-10 and Big 10 need to grow some balls and add two more teams.
Or Utah and BYU. Hell, i'd have more respect for the conference. My bad for grouping the big 10 in with the pac 10, i forgot they added a team. They need to pick up one more either way.
You can't take out two teams from a 9 team conference. Utah moving would be good. Then in the WAC grab a Fresno St....But of course everybody would want Boise St. to go to the Pac-10.
Yeah they can..... the Mountain West would recover. They'd just absorb the quality teams out of the WAC. Just imagine in the world of chaos Notre Dame joins the Big East in football as they should be forced to or lose any BCS affiliation Iowa State leaves the Big 12 and becomes 12th team in Big 10 Arkansas leaves the SEC and joins the Big 12 as has been rumored among betting circles in Vegas (although I think Baylor is the odd team out not Iowa State) BYU and Utah join the Pac 10 Fresno, Hawaii, Boise, SJ State and Nevada join the MWC Louisville leaves Big East and takes Arkansas's spot in SEC As what happens with the rest of the WAC, CUSA, Sun Belt and MAC I'll work on it and provide a road map for the chaos plan.
Notre Dame would make a lot more sense in the Big Ten than Iowa State with the rivalries involved with a lot of the teams as well as it would make sense geographically, and Iowa State adds nothing to that conference However ND would never go into the conferences not only because the Big East/BCS caters to ND but they have NBC adding to their egos
Word out west is this: Attempts were made to join the most successful/richest from the WAC and the the MWC but BYU's AD was against it -- destroying another potential BCS conference. BYU Fresno State Utah Boise State Nevada TCU Hawaii Colorado State San Diego State San Jose State That would be a pretty solid conference. I don't know if Hawaii would be added though because no one wants to travel out there every other year.
Anti trust laws?!?1 WTF? I guess when I go to watch college football, all I get is Florida Gators vs. whomever.. GHEY
Yeah Tom Holmoe (I believe the L is silent) was against bringing Boise and Hawaii in. He didn't want to have to compete with Hawaii for the island recuits. Obviously if BYU loses to Hawaii every year then the school in the islands would get the polynesian kids. He was also against Boise becuase they recruit in the same areas..... Unfortuntaley in the MWC BYU says jump and the commish says how high. The original plan was to bring in 4 teams when TCU joined. The 3 definates would have been Boise, Fresno with the 4th slot either going to Houston or Nevada. Houston made sense because it gave TCU a natraul rivalry and a travel partner whereas now there are no travel partners. UNLV was pushing hard for Nevada but as it is they only added the one. It would have looked like this UNLV TCU SDSU BYU Utah Wyoming Boise Air Force Houston/Nevada Fresno Colorado St New Mexico
I think the Irish would as well and it makes things a whole lot easier but they play basketball in the Big East so I just threw them in. The fact that they basically dictate to the NCAA what they want to do sickens me. Either join a conference or lose your BCS tie in. A more likely scenario and like I said it's being talked about here is Baylor being kicked out of the Big 12 and Arkansas taking their slot. What that does to Baylor and the SEC I don't know. I can't possibly see Baylor being asked to join the SEC. I think a team to take that spot in the SEC would either be USF or Louisville although the Cards having more tradition plus rivalries would make them the pick I think. Baylor however would make an interesting team to join the WAC or MWC. I doubt they'd look to join CUSA or Sun Belt.
I think the SEC would be more likely to take Clemson, or even FSU. ACC would then take USF, probably. The Big East needs to step away from football, and the NCAA needs to create a new All sport conference and give it the Big Easts Autobid.
I don't take the abomination of the Big East Basketball seriously at all in terms of this debate, can they even be considered the Big East anymore when they have a bunch of teams in the midwest and the south
This thread took off since I last posted. RichMiano, Arkansas leaving the SEC? That would be awesome, can we have Texas then?
Wait, what? If the Mountain West was an automatic qualifier, how would Utah get into the title game ahead of Florida? Florida was the best team in the country by just about every measure you can think of. An advanced statistical model not only agrees with that, but puts Florida well ahead of everyone else. Utah was a good team, but they're getting support from (A) the people who want to complain about "this team went undefeated. It's unfair to exclude them" and (B) fans of the Mountain West who want to argue that their conference is the best in the land, etc. Look, I've always wanted a playoff. Utah should have had a shot. Texas should have had a shot. USC should have had a shot. But the BCS got it right this year, for once. This is speculation, but based on all the games I watched, Florida wouldn't have much of a problem with Utah. You can make the argument that Utah should have had the chance, but there's simply no way to say Utah was a better team than Florida. Look at the games. Look at the way the Gators went into Florida State and massacred the Seminoles. Look at how they went into Georgia and blew the hell out of the Bulldogs, a 10-2 team. They beat Kentucky 63-5!!!!! Utah was a good team and had a good season. I recognized this before the bowl games. Them against Alabama was one of my five best bets of the bowl season. However, their most impressive win by far was beating Alabama, a team that was knocked out of the title race and was demoralized. History has shown that teams that were #1 and get knocked out of the title game late perform poorly in bowl games. I think the game would've been much more competitive had it been played before Florida ended Alabama's perfect season.
