Do you think a Spags,Ryan/Schott combo would work? Maybe we could see if the offense was Schott or Mangini.
Except that he doesn't have to sell those seats by September '09. His best bet is to bring in the guy he feels is most qualified, even if that's an unpopular pick, and hope that the guy does a great job with a team that won 9 games last year. All Schottenheimer would need to do is make the playoffs. Even a one-and-done shows progress, placates fans, and silences the Schotty detractors. If he fails, suddenly he's fired at the end of next season, and coach Cowher is convinced to coach the team. Woody wins. You could be right, but really, it's a guess at this point. Do I think Spags is a better DC than Schotty is an OC? Absolutely. Does that translate into a better HC? I don't know. There's no way Ryan comes here if Spagnuolo gets the HC job. First off, he wants a HC job. It would be silly for him to take anything else unless he was fired, which he won't be. Then there's the whole "lateral move" thing, so he wouldn't be allowed to do it anyway.
He would be allowed but we would have to get rid of Callahan & his spot would be DC/assistant head coach this is the way to get around that rule
I have learned over the years to put little to no stock in anything Cimini says or writes. The guy gets things wrong more often than he gets it right. I find it very difficult to judge B Schott. He was innovative and took risks in 2006... and BTW, so did the defense. Then the team started to get very conservative, again, on both sides of the ball. Was that Schott and Sutton doing that, or was it Mangini? We will likely never know, but I suspect it was Mangini. Bottom line, it is not easy to have an informed opion on any coordinator's ability to become a HC, unless one is privy to the inner workings of the team that coordinator worked for. Eventually, Mangini struck me as a guy that might not have listened to his coaching staff, and did things HIS way. His CS just had to follow orders. I have to wonder... if Spags is that brilliant, shouldn't he be able to run a 3-4? Or is he so inflexable he would shove a square peg into a round hole? If he gets the job, and goes to a 4-3 right away, even refusing to run a hybrid D, he is the wrong guy.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one. I dont care if fans will freak out, if Schottenheimer is hired as head coach im ecstatic.
At this point I would in favor of the powers that be locking the door of the training facility, sending all of the players pink slips and disbanding the Jets all together. If they didn?t do that - my favorites are as follows: No one on the current staff No hot prospect coordinator (with maybe the exception of Rex Ryan) No complete failure of a former head coach No college coach Beyond that ? I don?t care. Money talks and bullshit walks; get someone in here with a proven track record.
Spags is leading because Rex has not interviewed yet. If we sign Spags I will be mad. Rex is way more qualified and should be the lead candidate!
If Schotty Jr is hired, I'll be pretty pissed off for a while. After my grieving period I'd be willing to give the guy one season to see if he can turn it around. If the team becomes a laughing stock, or we end up with a losing season, we'll all feel vindicated, and he'll be gone. Then it's back to stage one.
Based on what? The 25th, 26th, and 16th ranked offenses he's produced? Or the idiotic play-calling? The lack of experience? 3rd & 1 shotgun with 2 pro-bowl RBs in the backfield? I'd love to know.
This I don't understand. Besides Pace, and arguably (though weakly) Thomas, who do we have that can't work in a 4-3?
I want a F*CKING coach already. I want to know wtf this team is going to do to try to alleviate some of our concerns. That starts with hiring someone and getting him in a Presser addressing the fans on his plan to fix this broken faucet.
Id prefer Schottenheimer or Westhoff to Spags, and Ryan over all three. Something about Spagnuolo and his defense has never seemed that great to me. Hes had them playing pretty damn well for a few years there, but Ryan's done better things with Baltimore for a longer period of time. As far as defensive credentials, I think Ryan gets the edge easily. And as far as head coaching type skills, Ryan I know commands a ton of respect from his players, I like his attitude a lot and I think coming off Mangini, who was more about stressing preparation and the mental side, having a coach who wants to beat the other guy's face in might do interesting things for this team. Spagnuolo just doesnt interest me really... he feels like the flavor of the month, while Ryans been a fixture in the league as one of the best DCs for years. Spags only beats Ryan because the Giants are playing great, but if he comes here he won't bring the team, so who gives a shit. And I have to say Im kind of surprised people are so down on Schottenheimer. I've always liked the dude, hes done a lot of interesting things with this offense, and to the extent that we struggled this year, the giant curveball he got in training camp and having to completely overhaul his defense midseason would seem to have a lot to do with it. Really I just think we don't know nearly enough about him to judge, other than by what he did with subpar talent in 06, which was pretty great. Beyond that, I dont recall ever really seeing him speak, or reading more than a few lines in the paper from him.
the issue here is going to be next years schedule, which is going to be VERY hard. the new coach will have to hit the ground running and make something with this team right away in order to not be put in a position this time next year where people are telling him he sucks. definitely a bad time for psls right now. good fuck em!
i hope Rex Ryan or Spaggs gets the job. Does anyone else find it hilarious that Jeff Jagodzinsky got fired for an interview for a job in which he has basically no chance in getting?
everyone wants a coach already. But if you want the right guy, you have to wait until they are eliminated from playoff contention so they can be interviewed a first and or second time, and then offered a job. Honestly, i dont think we make a move until Ryan gets an interview. whether he gets it or not idk. (IMO he should) after that, all our potentials will have seen an interview, so they will have been more informed about who their top guys are, second interviews abound, and a coach is hired after the fact. Better that they wait and hire the guy they believe is their man, not just some dude to get it done fastest.
