#1 _ Marty Schottenheimer was fired after going 14-2 and to the playoffs and having many winning seasons in a row. #2 - Brett Favre did not cause the lat season collapse but certainly added to it. There was as many bad coaching decisions as there were bad plays on both sides of the ball. The bottom line is that there was no excuse for this team losing to Oakland, Denver, Seattle or San Francisco. I think you can also add NE playing in their first game without Brady. That is why Mangini is gone and deservedly so.
I JUST THOUGHT OF ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! In those games you listed Favre threw.... wait for it...... 0 (YES ZERO) TDS and 6 INTS
So what? They shouldn't have been throwing at all against Oakland or Denver who couldn't stop the run. Oh, and he did have a td against NE. Anyway, using your logic then he is solely resposible for ever win the Jets did have because he threw for 22 TDS games, right?
Relax, lol Eric Mangini will be a good coach, but he would have never been a good coach for the NYJ. He was too comfortable(somewhat arrogant) and was unwilling to take a real hard look at him or the coaching staff for any of the problems the jets faced over the 3 years.. His firing has forced him to finally evaluate his own weakness. He most likely will make adjustments to his style and improve... But had he stayed in new York it was evident that was never going to happen. This was the right decision..let be optimistic that we find the right fit for this organization going fwd... Not worry about how Mangini turns out.. best of luck to him(even thought i hated him lol ) lets turn the page... that's it. This wasn't a Mistake. The best for move for the Jets and for Eric Mangini...
it's not realistic, it is selective and inherently dishonest. to come to your conclusion you have to voluntarily ignore the many more coaches who have had successful start only to flounder(just like Mangini), or who started off bad and stayed bad. so, either you are dishonest, and you have made a ridiculous argument in hopes that everyone else is too stupid to analyze the flaws in it, or the only other alternative is you yourself are stupid because you can't see how flawed your argument is. I'm not saying which one you are, I don't know whether you are either lying or stupid, so I'll let you admit which it is.
Why would you want anything to come back and bite us? Who the f*ck are you rooting for? Mangini was average nothing special about him. He will always be average. Like the 2nd poster said THIS THREAD SUCKS!
I am not exactly sure what you are saying here, but Favre's performance down the strect was just too terrible for him or any other coach to overcome. It wasn't like Favre just managed the games and the Jets got beat. He didn't have even a so so game down the stretch. The Jets didn't need Favre to singlehandedly win games this year-just not lose them. Place the blame were it deserves to go-Favre. I can't spell it out any clearer Jets fans... NO coach could win with their qb throwing 2 tds and 9 ints in a 5 game stretch-NO COACH-period end of story.
until those winning seasons failed to develop further into a true championship contender. that again is another selective argument. 9-7 is a winning record, but most franchises wouldn't celebrate a coach that was able to reach that mark 2 out of 3 years. I think about the Pats, they had a head coach that had two winning season in three years and won the division prior to Belichick. but they didn't simply settle for a level of success based solely on a winning record. they wanted progress, and didn't see that, so they fired him. an organization in tune with actual progress, not simply content with winning records, makes those types of decisions instead of settling for the winning record.
Mr Byrd - You make some valid points but when you have an 8 -3 record and fold like we did against some pretty bad teams, someone has to pay. By using your argument, why didn't the coach run the ball more if the QB was not playing well? A good coach puts his players in positions to win, not lose. There have been reports that Mangini changed the defensive scheme after the Denver game. Obviously the D did not play well down the stretch. Why change a scheme that worked well earlier in the year? Players did get confused alot against the 49ers. These glaring problems are all not Favre's fault. The coaching should have at least gotten us 2 more games. You can't give games away in the NFL. It cost us this season.
Mangini was the softest spoken, sissiest looking head coach that I have ever had to support. Glad he is gone, he is going to bomb in clevland. On a side note the midwest blows.
This might be a dumb question, but I have to ask it: If patience is the key, why do so many Coaches only get contracts for 3-4 years? Mangini just got another 4 year deal. And if Cleveland isn't proving they can advance in the Playoffs by Year 3, then he'll probably be fired or be on thin ice yet again. I think patience is out the window in the NFL. With the parity in the NFL, 3 years is considered enough time to show you have a team that, at least, can advance in the Playoffs and make a serious SB run. By Year 3 - no matter who the QB was - Mangini didn't show the Jets were capable of that.
I had no problem bringing back Mangini for another year. I was 50/50, probably leaning towards letting him go. But why trash the franchise? Just because the Jets haven't been the most successful franchise doesn't mean they should settle for mediocrity. Things chance. Did anyone think the Patriots were some great franchise before they got Brady?
see heres the thing, you should hope this DOESNT come back to bite us. the fact that you HOPE it DOES come back to bite use means that you are rooting for your team to fail. that just doesnt make any sense!
DennisByrd hit the nail on the head, and I have said this all along as well : NO COACH CAN OVERCOME 2TD 9INT IN 5 GAMES. No coach; period, end of story. You can go bring Vince Lombardi from the dead, and he would have lost the same games with all of those turnovers. And by the 3rd game, I think with Lombardi, Parcells, or any other revered coach, Favre would have had his ass on the end of the bench. But the Jets catered to him from the start, which was blaringly obvious, and Mangini just rolled with it and let them do what they wanted and let Brett do what he wanted. All parties are happy now. Favre can sit and play his retirement BS game all offseason, and the Stupid Jets can sit and get nothing accomplished along the coaching front because of Favre, and no one wanting to start a new regime with this guy at the QB position for at most one year. Man, we can go on and on, and I guess we will until Brett Favre stops acting like a 14 year old girl and actually makes a decision. That decision should be very easy. He doesn't have it anymore. End of story. Hasn't had it for years, and every team except the Jets seemed to know that for a fact.
