Ziggy Hood at #17 is borderline outrageous. We can easily get him with our 2nd round pick at #49 to be a 3-4 DE if we want, but I am not in love with his ability matching up against tackles against the run. Our 1st round pick should be 1 of 3 positions: QB, S, ILB. QB: If Stafford or Bradford falls S: Mays or Moore ILB: Mauluga, Curry, or Spikes I completely disagree with Brown as the 2nd round pick - we have greater needs than RB with Jones and Washington on board. The 3rd round pick is the only one I really agree with and it pains me to say I love it. Sean Smith is a great corner. I think he is better suited for a Cover 2 team, but he definitely has the speed and ability to lock down in man. This can either give us 3 great CBs or allow Lowery to experiment at/move to FS. The 4th I'm iffy on. Barden would make a nice red zone threat with his 6'6 size, but I question his ability to get separation against NFL CBs and I know his hands to be questionable. I think taking basically only a red zone threat in the 4th is very early for that. He wouldn't beat out Cotchery or Coles and we need a WR with deep speed before we need a possession receiver. The 5th I like actually. Clay Matthews would make one hell of a OLB in the 3-4 and he is a great blitzer and a very hard worker. His intangibles won't wow you, but his tenacity and effort will. Rounds 6 and 7 are a little ridiculous. Emmanuel Cook is a borderline day 1 prospect and he won't make it out of the 3rd round. Bear Pascoe won't make it to the 7th, but he could slide to the top of the 6th. If you really wanted him, you'd have to draft him with our 5th. I'd redo those picks. My biggest issue is that you fail to get an ILB and a S, which are two positions that we desperately need to address this offseason.
Can't say I agree with the Ziggy Hall pick. I don't think this is the case of an "under the radar" player that will creep into the Jets lap. Would we take someone with that much uncertainty after the Vernon Gholston debacle? Do we really need a running back? We couldn't stop anyone at the end of the season. We were starting a combination of Abram Elam and Eric Smith in the secondary. I think the first two picks need serious overhaul. LeSean is staying another year at Pitt.
"Ziggy is one of the most explosive DTs in all of college football...he can make the transition to 3-4 defensive end. He's second on Mizzou with 5 sacks, and he led his team with 12 QB hurries, but his biggest strength is his run stopping ability -- he gets penetration on almost every play. The guy's a gym rat -- he bench presses 440 pounds, and has added over 50 pounds of muscle since joining the Tigers. His motor alone should earn him a first round grade." I hear these adjectives all the time, and we certainly heard them with the Gholston pick or DeWayne Robertson. They have been submissively beaten into our heads by Kiper, McShay and Mayock. "Great motor, workout warrior, etc.." There is no such thing as a safe pick, but I doubt the Jets brass take that sort of chance, that early..
1. Emanuel Cook is a safety and Sean Smith/Dwight Lowery could also be used there... 2. Cook will fall -- he's an idiot. The guy's been arrested 2 or 3 times and a lot teams don't want to risk a pick on a guy that might turn out to be the next Pacman Jones. He'll probably fall to Round 4 or 5. They only way he's a definite first day pick is if he runs a GREAT 40. 3. Bear Pascoe shouldn't fall that far, but he might if he runs a 40 in the 5.00's like some people in Fresno suspect. Pascoe's put on a lot of weight and he's lost a ton of speed, and he wasn't a fast guy in the first place. Fresno's mediocre season could also hurt him. 4. I'm hoping that Rex Ryan is the Jets' next coach, and if he comes here, I think he'll bring one of the Raven FAs with him -- Bart Scott is the most likely. He will fill one of the ILB holes. 5. Yeah, I didn't draft an inside 'backer, but I drafted two potential safeties.
1. That is like me drafting Taylor Mays in the 6th and saying that I satisfied the need. Cook can't hold Mays' jock strap, but the point is the same nonetheless - Cook won't be there in the 6th round. As far as I'm concerned you have not realistically given us a S unless you want to move Lowery there. 2. Yes, Cook will fall. Without any off his off-the-field issues he would be a fringe-1st round prospect who would probably be taken in the 2nd. He will fall to late 2nd or the 3rd, and I will bet a ton that he doesn't get past the 4th. You say yourself he's probably a 4th/5th round pick and yet you have us taking him in the middle of the 6th. 3. Pascoe won't fall to the 7th unless he runs the 40 in the high 5s like a 5.7 which isn't happening. He knows that as well, and I can bet that he will show up to the combine lighter than he has played all season so he can submit the best workout #s possible. 4. We share the same hope for Rex Ryan. The idea about Scott is an interesting one - you should have written that with your mock as a free agent signing. I don't see us signing Scott, but if we did we would be better off. He will be 29 at the start of next season however. 5. You drafted one CB who would potentially move Lowery to FS. Getting Cook in the 6th round just isn't going to happen barring him losing a limb in offseason workouts, so I just ignored that.
Nobody seems to be having him in there mocks but what do you guys think about Nate Irving? ILB. NC State. R(SO). That's if he declares.
Love the brown pick. The guy just oozes potential to me. I have no idea if he will rise to 2nd round pick status or not. However, if he runs the 40 in the 4.3's he could pull a Matt Jones and fly up the charts on pure potential. Or do what Flacco did this year, a great prospect from non-elite competition rising very quickly up the charts. The guy is going to be great. best part is his rookie year, he can just learn, learn, learn. Not rack up carries on his legs. Or he can be a goal line back for us doesnt matter. # back system works great for the giants, one guy is clearly the guy (Jacobs for the Giants, for us it would be Jones) another guy would be our lightning in a bottle (Bradshaw-Giants, Leon-Jets) and their quality backup is ward, where as Brown would work as our quality backup, and our workhorse of the future. Love It!!!
The Ravens are going to lose one or more of Suggs, Scott, and Lewis...and we hold out hope that it's Scott? Bart Scott blows. He'd piss us off. He plays alot like Barton, but is more annoying.
They'll be sure to lock up Suggs and Lewis will never leave the Ravens. Scott has been very successful in the 3-4. Why do you say he blows?
1. Taylor Mays isn't a guy that would fall, he's going to go in the top 10. That comparison makes no sense, it's just you acting like you know it all again. Emanuel Cook is a safety. Sean Smith has the potential to play there in the pros. 2. Cook's been arrested not once, not twice, but three times. If Spurrier wasn't the coach at South Carolina, Cook would be working at McDonald's. He's been charged on gun charges twice and with unlawful possession once. He can't get it through his head that he's wrong. Teams will see that, and shy away. I think he'll go late 4th to mid 5th -- but there's always a chance he'll slide some more...especially after he shows GMs and coaches how dumb he really is. He couldn't pass two classes to stay eligable for the Gamecocks' bowl game. He was taking ALL remedial courses. 3. Bear Pascoe is one of my favorite players in this draft, mainly because I'm a Fresno alum -- and I hope he has time left to lose all of the extra weight he's gained. Pascoe's having off-season shoulder surgery and he might also have work done on his ankle, which has been a problem for the past two seasons. For a guy so big, Pascoe gets injured...A LOT. His 40 time will be the biggest problem come draft time and I hope he keeps it under 5.00, but if he runs anything above that he'll fall very, very far. No one wants a slow tight end anymore. The game has changed. As for not drafting a safety high, Taylor Mays will be gone and I'm not sold on William Moore...he'll probably be gone too though. I'd love for the Jets to get Mays, but it's not going to happen. I hope Maualuga falls to 17, but that probably won't happen either. Hood is a guy that I see rising a lot -- yes, he's going to be a workout warrior, but he's a three year starter and he's been productive over the entire span. Hood will kill the agility drills (for a defensive tackle) and the bench press...the guy's incredibly athletic for someone that weighs 300 pounds. Tyson Jackson is the only big defensive lineman rated higher -- Peria Jerry could be the DT that rises, but Hood should perform better in workouts, giving him the edge. I don't see Raji going in the first, unless a team like Miami really wants a nose tackle for the future.
Cause he's loud, obnoxious, and undisciplined. Might as well draft an ILB if we're going to blow money on the position. And neither locking Suggs or Lewis up is a lock. Plus, if thats true...why not hold out hope the Jets can go after Karlos Dansby? He's supposed to be likely to hit FA, but who knows anymore.
1. Yes, Emmanuel Cook is a safety. But saying you have filled our need at S by making him available in the middle of 6th round for us to pick is ridiculous. You say yourself that maybe he falls to the 4th/5th and the 5th being the latest - so why would you have us drafting him midway in the 6th? It just doesn't make sense. If you want Smith to be a S, then we have a need at CB and vice versa. 2. None of this changes the fact that Pascoe will be gone before the 7th round. Teams still value blocking TEs, and Pascoe can catch as well. 3. With Stafford and Bradford both having declared, I think there is a possibility that one can fall to us seeing as the Lions are the only team that I think will definitely take a QB with their 1st. Herm is going to try and save his job if he keeps it for the 09 season and with Thigpen and Croyle already there he'll likely go for a defensive playmaker. If Singletary is the 49ers head coach he's a defensive guy and will likely go defense as well, plus Shaun Hill is his guy, and he has O'Sullivan and Smith on the roster. 4. I think Brandon Spikes is last year's Jerod Mayo. He's going to stay as a 2nd round pick grade until right before the draft and then shoot into the 1st round. I can see him being taken 2nd after Curry, before Laurinaitis and Mauluga. Laurinaitis will beast at the combine with a 40 in the 4.4s, and Mauluga will run poorly in comparison and I think he could find himself sliding in the 1st. If neither QB is there, I'd target Mauluga first.
First and Foremost.... The number one NEED of our team, is safety. Our weakside, which is suppose to be the STRONG side, i.e. Strong Safety was dismantled by receivers with speed and talent that outclassed the backups, of Elam/Smith/Reed and at time Coleman. Taylor Mays is 6'4" playing SAFETY and can play both sides. Having Kerry Rhodes also having that ability to play FS and SS is a rare asset that very few teams have, if any. Possibly the only tandem is Ed Reem and Dawan Landry from the Ravens. In case anyone read, Mangini has brought on Rob Ryan as his Defensive Coordinator. I believe that its essential to have someone coach our team that can bring out the best of our 3-4 defense. That coach is Rex Ryan. 1. Taylor Mays should be our first round pick. 2. I prefer we trade up and grab Maclin... (I feel he has the best skillset out of the wideouts in this class). any other pick i really could care less, because there is no real hole we need to fill. keep in mind that there is a chance that tony richardson might decide to retire, and we would need a fullback. FYI- Donald Brown can run the ball, but he is deserving of a 6th to 7th round pick. Hofstra, Virginia, Temple, Baylor, Syracuse, Pittsburgh... all of these teams were lacking in the depth that other conferences had. Which is why he did not receive the Doak Walker, or even an honorable mention. Lets put him up against the defenses of the Pac 10, Big 10, or SEC and see how he fares.
Taylor Mays is Top 10...but... we need to do whatever possible to get him. taylor mays. hands down. get him. or i will mutiny.
Grossly understated. Donald Brown will be a 2nd or 3rd rounder. I don't think strength of schedule equates to NFL production. He clearly produced at the collegiate level and the Big East may be lower top to bottom than the other conferences, but look at Steve Slaton or Michael Bush from the last couple years. Perhaps small school backs like Tim Hightower who have been successful. Bottom line he is one hell of a football player, look at any reasonable draft projection for him and you will see.
Regarding Clay Mathews, he was too slow to get on the field at the LB position and only played this year as a hybrid de/lb. Too slow for college equals career backup in the NFL. i really hope we get Sean Smith or someone else who can play both safety and CB. What if Lowery actually pans out? We don't want to have three good CBs and just one good safety.
I don't think Brown is overrated at all. He's quick as hell, but he's not uber fast and he doesn't run with as much power as McCoy, who the OP compared him to. It's not that I don't think he'll be a productive back in this league. Most RBs can be productive in this league barring injury. I just don't think he's *that* good right now. With a little weight on him and a little more power in his running I'd move him up there with McCoy and Moreno. Right now, I think he's at least a tier or two lower, and non-elite RBs in a draft can go just about anywhere.
WHAT?!? If you put any of the candidates for the Walker award, up against that schedule they would've broke records. Lets be real. Shonn Greene ----> 300+ attempts, 3 more touchdowns, played against Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State... etc. ATTEMPTS YARDS TOUCHDOWNS 307 1,850 20 Knoshown Moreno ----> ran in the SEC. fewer touches, one less TD. ATTEMPTS YARDS TOUCHDOWNS 250 1,400 16 aforementioned... DONALD BROWN. i also lived in the same building with him last semester, and he is extremely well conditioned, gym acoloyte, and im not taking anything away that he is a good football player, but he's not worth a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd pick. The other boards, drafts, are basing it all on this seasons stats, and not his career. I personally believe Andre Dixon would have had a better season if he would not have been benched for getting arrested. ATTEMPTS YARDS TOUCHDOWNS 367 2,083 18 to say that conference strength isn't a factor, and that opposing program talent isn't a factor is either incredibly unknown wisdom, or complete ignorance to the game of football.
