Well, favre came up big against the better teams he faced. In he has wins against: Miami (split 1-1), NE (split 1-1, same record as miami, playoff caliber team), Tenn, and the Cardinals, who are now in the second round. In fact, the only playoff caliber team favre did not get a win against was the Chargers, who are also in the second round. Favre, however, did play bad against bad teams. Chad didn't. Favre wasn't a clear downgrade, he was just a flip of the switch with chad. Tends to come up big, and be more conservative with his throws, against better teams, and lets it loose too much against bad teams. Chad goes the other way. Biggest thing you saw chad get exposed on is that he just can't make good throws, and decisions, when he gets rushed. Favre got a hit a crap ton this year, and chad would of been getting hit just as much. In fact, I dare say, he would of had a worse year with the jets then he did with Miami. Still, Favre did come up big against the good defenses. WIth Favre, it's always been "let him get you those big wins during the year, then hope the team is good enough to allow him to blow it against the bad teams. Just get to the playoffs, and he'll give you a 50/50 shot against any team to win".
But some of the int was not fault of Chad!! if he was still with Jets he would be better because of coles and cotchery....
Time to face the music here...Chad was overall horrible today. But he was not close to sucking as bad as Favre. Favre was conservative in his throws (ranking about 30th in yards per completion) AND had 22 interceptions. So don't kid yourself, packerbacker. Favre was an enormous downgrade, because he was in the bottom third of NFL quarterbacks.
yes, Farve did worse job than Chad. he had a much better team but did not finish the season very well and was horrible!
Well I still think Chad is the real deal and this season he proved it by wining the afc east over the patriots and jets,I blame today's bad game on the horrible playcalling by the OC.
Pennington is now 0-2 vs. Baltimore with 2 TDs and 5 INTs. He never played against the Ravens while with the Jets. In 2000, Testaverde was the QB vs. Baltimore. Pennington was warming the bench as a rookie. In 2004, Pennington was injured. Quincy Carter started. LaMont Jordan threw the key pass in the game. In 2005, Pennington was injured. Brooks Bollinger started. In 2007, Pennington was injured. Kellen Clemens started.
Nah. If your offensive line is getting its ass kicked and your QB makes a few insane/wounded duck throws, it's very hard to make good calls.
Today's game illustrated exactly what many of us have been saying about Chad for years. He simply cannot attack top tier defenses. He struggles mightily against them and can not get the job done. Those are the types of defenses you will face in the playoffs. People can defend him until they're blue in the face, but we've seen this story before.
www.jetsdaily.com This is probably the last in a long line of Brett Favre and Chad Pennington comparisons. Each player's fate was intertwined all season long, with Pennington clearly ending up with the upper hand, helping transform the 1-15 Dolphins to 11-5 and AFC East champions. However, even with Favre's shortcomings this season well-documented by many, including yours truly, the trade was still the right move for the Jets to make. It's hard to ignore 22 interceptions and a lost 3rd round pick, especially when your former quarterback beats you in your own building to win the division. There is no way to justify that releasing Pennington and trading for Favre worked. But that's not what I'm arguing. Before Favre's arrival, most close to the situation felt the team was pretty good. Expectations were high after the acquisitions of Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace, Alan Faneca, and Damien Woody. No one expected a Super Bowl, partly because of a lot of questions about the newcomers, partly because of concerns about Chad Pennington. No one doubts no. 10 as a football player. In fact there might be no player in the NFL whose strengths and limitations are as well-known and as pronounced as Pennington. He's smart and accurate, and few are better at the short passing game and play action passes than the Marshall grad. But he has yet to prove he can beat a good defense when he has to, and his performance against Baltimore serves as vindication for the Jets and for the fans who wanted him out. Any Jets fan could have told you Miami stood no chance in this game. Not only were they outmatched talent-wise, but no one expected Pennington to play at the same level he had at the regular season against an elite defense. Four interceptions later, and they were right. It was his worst performance since a five interception debacle against New England in 2003, and it vindicated Chad's detractors who felt that he simply cannot beat Super Bowl-caliber teams when he has to. Look, Pennington deserves a ton of credit for leading the Dolphins turnaround. And I completely realize that he doesn't have much talent around him. However, this team won 11 games this year, including nine of their last ten, and talentless NFL teams simply cannot do that. Pennington was traded because the Jets did not believe that he was good enough to lead them to the promised land. Could he take them to the playoffs? Absolutely. He did that in 2002, 2004, and 2006 (maybe he's better in even numbered years?). But he did not take them to an AFC Championship game, and no team ever feared him on the opposing sideline. At 32 years of age, Pennington had done all he could in New York, and his time had come and gone. Miami put him in a great position, using the Wildcat offense and tons of trick plays to take pressure off Pennington, and against most defenses, he was able to remain in his comfort zone. Baltimore is not like most defenses. Brett Favre proved that the trade was worth it when he beat New England and Tennessee in back-to-back weeks. He played very well in both of those games, and the team was primed for a deep playoff run. Unfortunately, his play fell off a cliff after those two weeks. If the Jets had an average quarterback, they would be in the playoffs. If the Jets had Chad Pennington, they would be in the playoffs. But making the playoffs was not the reason the Jets swapped Pennington for Favre. They wanted a Super Bowl. And as Chad has shown time and time again, he is incapable of doing that. The Jets didn't know if Favre was capable or not, but they wanted to mix it up, and for 11 weeks, it looked like it had worked. Nine interceptions to just two touchdowns in the last five showed that the Favre gamble was not going to work. But Pennington's four interceptions showed that sticking with the status quo would have failed in bringing home the Lombardi trophy as well.
Where are all the Pennington Big Mouths Now? C'mon, where are they. All ready to open their mouths about nothing, like we were supposed to have the 3 yard wonder as our QB another season. Where are ya now? Like many of us said, that arm doesn't beat a good defense. Ever. But so many wanted to be wise guy after the fact. He's the runner up to the MVP of the league like Gholston is the greatest defensive player of all time. That was all nonsense. Guy benefited from playing alot of weak teams down the stretch and a head coach who put in a million gatchet plays that helped his stats look good.
Holy shit! how familiar does this sound??? FIRE HACKETT!!! :rofl2: :lol: :rofl2: You’re right dude – we haven’t watched this dude since we wasted a first rounder on him. Post of the year -
Very well put. Perhaps the best I've read on this subject. I agree completely with everything you wrote.
if Chad was still in NYC he would take us to the playoffs this year! Favre has lost team in last 5 games but they never gave up on Chad.
Chad can win a game for you, but it seems hes always against a defense like the old NE or Baltimore today. Nobody runs it up against those guys. Chad's whole career was during Bellicheck's prime run from 2001-2007. It's like asking if anyone can ever beat Michael Jordan in a big game. Let's be fair now.
