D-Brick vs. Jake Long

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D-Brick or Jake

  1. D-Brick

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  2. Jake Long

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  1. German Jets Fan

    German Jets Fan 2007 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    I can?t belive that it?s 50/50 on a Jetsboard now.

    Jake Long is a great player, but Brick is definitly the better Passblocker, and passblocking is just more important than runblocking, that makes Brick the clear winner.

    Also I feel, that Brick?s Runblocking improved significantly this season and really think he?s on the verge of becomming an elite-LT.
     
  2. joesmoe39

    joesmoe39 Active Member

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    sucks to say, but jake long already is a better nfl'er than d'brick. d'brick is a serviceable left tackle, but nowhere near elite that long has the potential to become......
     
  3. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Jake Long wasn't available when we drafted Brick. This is a stupid thread. They are both good. FinHomo likes his boy better. What a shocker.
     
  4. joesmoe39

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    two words GREEN GLASSES
     
  5. Conuficus

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    For what it is worth I think either is a good choice. It just depends on what type of system you choose to run on offense.

    Would Ferguson have been the pick if the Jets intended to be a run first team in a conference where 3 teams play a 3-4? Maybe not. Ferguson was never known as a great run blocker at Virginia anyways, and that has continued into the pro game. However, this doesn't mean that he is garbage. Ferguson is and shouldn't be the primary focus of a run game as he is not a great leverage player.

    Ferguson can bend at the knees, but it is pretty obvious that he doesn't have a great base, just from watching him play. The guy just doesn't have great strength in his legs, and uses body lean more than lower body leverage to block a defender. Ferguson doesn't really redirect guys as much as shield them, and force them to employ a counter move. He doesn't stop a defender's momentum using strength, rather position, the depth of the drop by the QB, etc. allow Ferguson to win those battles. A powerful DE will give Ferguson issues all day long especially if the defender is committed to putting his head in Ferguson's chest. Defensive ends who bull rush and or use much more of power game generally expose Ferguson before too long.

    Ferguson is much more of a finesse blocker who uses angles and position to block defenders rather than sheer leg drive. Ferguson would be best used in the run game by being in space on a toss play, a reverse - where the DE is influenced by the initial action away from him, belly plays, screens etc. If Ferguson can operate in an area where he can use his quickness, and set himself to wall off the defender he is quite good.

    This would probably explain why Ferguson is better at draws, delays and plays where the Jets employ more of a zone concept in their blocking. For that purpose Ferguson is very good. If he were asked to do the things Jake Long is, interms of being an inline blocker a majority of the time, and operate in what was intended to be a power offense then D'Brick would be out of his element and look bad.
     
  6. XxAlbert84xX

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    I am going to take brick, i think Jake Long is benefitting from the fact that chad is smart and he gets rid of the football and hardly takes sacks. I watch a variety of dolphin Games and all but 2 of the jet games. I haven't seen many false starts or holds by brick. Jake has had some penalties.Jake long is good but i think if you switch qbs and put favre the way he doesnt get rid of the ball and takes sacks more than incompletions.i think Jake long would be giving up more sacks.
     
  7. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    It is not even close. I have watched enough of both teams to know this. It is just spillover anger directed at the team and its players.

    As I said in prior threads he is a way better pass blocker this year then anyone picked ahead of him for the pro-bowl. Yes, I have watched the others enough to know this.

    Just like some say he is over-rated by people on this board, Brick is actually under-rated because quite frankly many Jet fans just root for or expect failure in their top picks.

    Is Brick a Pace or Ogden? Nope, he isn't, but at this point he is certainly better than Jake Long. Again, LT's get their money to protect the blind side and Brick was excellent this year at it. I just wish he was protecting a 32 y/o Favre and not the washed up 90 y/o version we have right now....... as you can see what happened to him when he finally got decent coaching. But that is for a different discussion.
     
  8. Miamipuck

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    btw THIS IS THE REAL ANSWER.
     
  9. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    I would take D'Brick at this point. D'Brick is very good against speed rushers and has really taken a huge step forward this year. He has been very good in pass protection.

    Thats not saying that Jake Long isnt going to be a great player but if I had to pick I would go with D'Brick right now.
     
  10. FinNasty

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    Um... didnt Brick block for Pennington for 2 years? It didnt seem to help him as he gave up double digit sacks in his first 2 years...

    But all of a sudden it helps Jake?
     
  11. Wolfe Tone

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    I understand what your saying, but I think he meant it is apples to oranges for the offense that Long and D'Brick are playing in, that is the key difference, Pennington is doing alot of things for you guys that he did not do when he was here, Sparano is giving him an offense that fits his skill set.
     

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