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If he cant hack it at outside line backer then why not have him gain some weight and play DE which is his position anyway? I mean we talked about how we need some youth in the DL, so why dont they do that? I mean its only his first season we'll never know whats going to happen in the future but im just saying

 

His skillset fuckin transfer dude...at least his physical ones do...he's big, he's fast, he's athletic, and he's ridiculously strong for both his size and his athleticism. What he has to learn to understand is that he can't overpower guys ALL the time.

What he needs is for someone to light a fire on his ass, and that fire SHOULD NOT BE Mangini's. This is Gholston's job. When he starts to understand that, he'll start understanding what he has to do to be successful at his job. Once he clicks, it goes.

Fact is, Vernon Gholston has the potential to turn games around in the NFL. What he doesn't have is the fire to do that right now IMO.

But whatever skills you're complaining about can be fixed. All he has to do is fix them. Thats his fucking job. It's really that simple. That's what a mature prospect has over a physical beast like Gholston. Thats why Chris Long would have been the pick had they both been on the board. But he wasn't on the board, so the Jets went with the the freak. Any team with half a brain goes with the freak of the that draft at that point. What prospect REALLY blew you away enough to NOT pick Gholston? I'm looking at the '08 draft list right now, and I'm not seeing it. Maybe it's the bud, but I'm definitely not seeing it.

He's like Vernon Davis in the sense that he's not mature enough right now. Davis is one of the better and well rounded TE's in football right now, even if few here will disagree. He can block like another linemen, and when he's had a chance to make plays he has. If Gholston has some fuckin pride in himself he'll start maturing and doing the things he has to do to improve himself. He obviously did alot of self motivating when he built up his body like that, maybe he should pull that card out again. If he has some fuckin pride in himself he can not just sit pretty on his money and keep lifting weights while not doing his job. And since he can easily lose ALOT of that money by getting cut, he had better want to be good at what he gets paid to do.

Hopefully that hits him. If not, then he's a bitch. Seriously. Like, theres no other word for that. Most people HATE their jobs, but many still want to excel at whatever it is at they're doing. If he chooses to sit back on his pay, then he'll lose a shitload of it by getting cut eventually. Not only that, but he'd be a bitch.

 

Harrison was not drafted, so that's a huge difference right there between him and Gholston. Harrison played mostly on special teams early in his career and had his breakout year in 2007.

EDIT: Before the draft I compared Gholston to Aundray Bruce.

 

Are you describing Mike Mamula or VG here?:

A friend of mine says that Mike Mamula, when wearing a shell and shorts, was the most skilled defensive lineman he ever saw.

 

Kenneth Sims might be another guy to consider alongside Bruce when talking about Gholston.

 

Yeah, Sims was a colossal bust. He was the #1 overall pick in 1982 by the Patriots. He was a defensive end.

Bruce was a pass rushing linebacker and therefore more similar to Gholston.

I don't remember Kenneth Sims much and can't comment at all as to what type of player he was. I was in elementary school during his NFL days.

I didn't follow college football when Bruce played for Auburn, but from what I understand he was very Gholstony. He had a good number of sacks and had an impressive physique.
Bruce could play well in spurts for the Falcons, but was a very average player. He did not do anything special. He was so underwhelming that one year Jerry Glanville experimented by using Bruce as a tight end. Bruce would finish his career playing lackluster football for the Raiders.

My comments around draft time were that Gholston would do good if he had a similar career as Bruce. In other words, at best Gholston could be the next Bruce. Right now Gholston has his work cut out for him just to get to Bruce's level. That's sad. Bruce, as big a bust as he was, was not an invisible player as a rookie. Marcus Cotton was another rookie linebacker on that 1988 Falcons team. Cotton was selected 28th overall out of Southern California. He had some nice games as a rookie, but had some off-the-field problems and never panned out.

My biggest concern was that Gholston exhibited no lateral movement in college. He looked like a steroid freak much like David Boston with the Chargers.

 

The scary thing about Gholston is the excuse for this guy is he was a DE in College and it's going to take decades to learn how to play standing up in the NFL.

How many times do we put Drew Coleman, Hank Poteat and Burnt Toast into coverage with 3 rushing lineman? If Gholston could be a beast if he was on the edge in DE position he would be in the game on the edge as a DE. Instead we put Burnt Toast in the Defensive backfield in most of those situations. If Burnt toast is preferable to Gholston as a DE in passing situations its more than the tough transition to a stand up LB in the 3/4.

Ty Law is getting more playing time than Gholston, Ty Law may be slower than Jenkins at this point and his best football skill is holding in a way that the ref usually can't see it. It's not like we are so loaded in the defensive backfield that we can't get an unpolished guy who can rush the QB big time snaps.

 

Winston you are right, Law looks very slow on the field.