Jets fans: we win, everything is great, we're awesome Jets fans: we lose, fire everyone, ignore any previous games in favor of the last game or two. I know tri-staters are not a patient bunch, but this is ridiculous. And we have 22,438,928.6 threads already on this subject.
Maybe because it has been since 01/12/69 since we won a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP think that has anything to do with it?
While I agree, Most NFL Fans and Media alike are like that. When you only play once a week, there is a lot of time in between games to banter. In all other sports, you can erase a poor performance with a solid effort 24 hours later. Look at the Giants last year. Everyone wanted everyone gone. They had a big run, now everyone on that team can do no wrong. Well at least everyone 'cept Plax!
Mangini is not going to be canned now, so what is the point of this thread if the Jets win their next three? Uh, there would be none.
If Mangini were to be fired, and unless they lose the next three I don't think he will be, Schottenheimer would be my first choice
i dont see how making or not making the playoffs has anything to do with needing a new coach. so ok you back into the playoffs and you know that the staff is not doing the right things... so they get to stay for another year? but you miss out by one game and a staff that may be very good gets the axe? yeah that just doesnt make any sense whatsoever, its about long term goals and consistency not what happens in the last 3 weeks of one year. personally i dont think manigini has done the things necessary to keep his job, but i dont think that the next 3 weeks will change my opinion either.
Yes, but a Super Bowl isn't something you can just be completely reactionary. Championships are rarely built overnight, and if they are, cap hell and years of purgatory typically await. The best chance at a championship is to find a good coach, build a good foundation, and move on from there. I'm not sold on Mangini yet, but I've seen a lot of positive things from him, and the team as a whole has played well enough where there's no reason to abandon ship just yet. If we collapse and miss the playoffs, then there's a chance, and I might even be in favor of it, but we haven't gotten to that point yet. If we play hard and miss the playoffs, then I'd rather stick with EM another year.
A call for change in coaching is ludicrous right now, given we go from 4-12 to 8-4 (and counting) in one season. Especially since we are still atop the AFC East at the moment. This is typical of the part of NY that I hate. Impatient assholes with instant gratification on their minds and all else is intolerable. And at the end of their own lives, when they look back at what they themselves have accomplished and are still living in a 1-bedroom flat, they quickly realize they've squandered most of the medium to long-term opportunities they ever had because the results weren't instantaneous and quickly converted into overnight success. Ridiculous. Seeking overnight success is a sure-fire road to failure every time.
Obviously just making the playoffs is your goal. Schottenheimer is not a winner. He is a cock tease. He will almost get you there, then leave you hanging with your balls in your hand.
A Coach is as strong as his braintrust. Who is more of a genius? Tom Coughlin or Steve Spagnuolo(sp)?? BB hasn't won a SB even with better talent since the days of Crennel and Weis, and those two coordinators have walked into shitty situations with where they are now. And Weis isn't a college coach, he's a pro's coach (told to me by the movers and shakers in sports, not my own opinion). Parcells didn't win one without BB. Holmgren hasn't been great without Andy Reid. and so on...
I would love to see Cowher as our couch, dude gives us attitude, identity and grit, unlike Eric Mangina and Bob "chicken-little" Sutton. Schottenheimer would be great too except for the fact that he can't win in the post-season.
If we get a new coach, Favre is definitely gone. He had a hard time learning a new system and probably won't want to do it again next year.
Everyone forgets that Tom Coughlin took an expansion team and in year two had them 9 and 7 two 11 and 5 years followed up with a 14 and 2 year. Staff matters but Coughlin has the experience and the track record of building a team from scratch. He also made changes to his staff in year 2 on the Giants. Knowing when to hold them and when to unload them is part of being a good HC. When your big staff move after 2 seasons is your OL coach you must be pretty happy with the Coordinators.
