2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Bye Melky, welcome Cameron, stay off the banned substances though.
     
  2. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    So with the centerfield posistion locked up. Another pitcher will be signed by Sunday.
     
  3. Cappy

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    The entire Yankee outfield will be free agents after 2009.

    Matsui, Damon, Cameron, Nady
     
  4. AlioTheFool

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    No, I'd have to admit I was wrong if a few years down the line Santana is winning Cy Youngs and Phil Hughes is coaching Little Leaguers. There's a definite right or wrong in there.

    I wouldn't say we "threw away" Tabata either. Nady and Marte are pretty nice additions to the team. I was trying to be fair though by assuming Melky will always just suck, and that I shouldn't count who anyone was actually traded for, since at the time the Santana thing was going down, no one involved in that trade was on the block elsewhere.

    The point really is that you can't judge not making this trade yet. If Hughes reaches his potential, and Kennedy pans out as at least a 5th starter, then we wind up with more than we would have gained in the Santana trade. That's not counting Nady, Marte, or Cameron. Hell, if we don't count those 3, and only Hughes reaches his potential, we still break even.

    I understand you like to look at the proven commodity, but sometimes you have to take a risk. Look at Scott Kazmir. Think any Mets fan wouldn't take a mulligan, given the opportunity? You just calculate your risk, and hope that your moves work out. All you ever have is hindsight to judge a trade or lack thereof.
     
  5. AlioTheFool

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    I'd think it's pretty safe to say that at some point this year Nady will be extended. Matsui and Cameron won't be Yankees in '10, and Damon is a crapshoot, with a possible year-by-year thing going on, dependent on desire and physical ability.

    Would Jackson be ready by '10? That would only leave one position to be filled if Damon doesn't return.
     
  6. Cappy

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    Jackson, Crawford, and Holliday.
     
  7. GQMartin

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    ^ Crawford doesn't like to play center. What about Baldelli?
     
  8. Cappy

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    Who said he'd be in center? That's Jackson's territory.
     
  9. Cappy

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    The Yanks might get Bill Hall out of this, too? Awesome. I imagine they'd be trading a pitcher on the 40-man to make room for Sheets/Burnett/Lowe/whomever... and they said they don't want it to be Kennedy. I wonder if Britton would suffice? :lol:

    More likely, it'll be someone like Wright.
     
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    From Heyman
    Jesus Christ, please let it happen! :eek:hmy::breakdance:
     
  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    HA..I was just about to post this and this is one thing we CAN agree on. I would love this and this I would think would finally put them over the top for next year. They could add him, Burnett or Lowe and Pettitte for a year and still be under last year's payroll and still under the 500 million + they added in new contracts last year.

    Thinking about this some more, there would still be a log jam in the outfield. If they get Teixiera, he plays first and that moves Swisher to the OF but where? They just traded for Cameron and still have Nady, Damon, Matsui and who knows who else. Matsu will be full time DH but that still leavs too many unless they make another trade.
     
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  12. AlioTheFool

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    I adore Crawford. I've been saying I want him for years. But didn't TB extend him during the past season?

    I'm unfamiliar with Hall.

    I don't think there's a single Yankees fan who doesn't want Teixeira.

    Imagine the Yankees grab Teixeira, Lowe, Manny, and Burnett goes to the Braves. That would have to irk Boston.
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    I think the more likely scenario is that they give away Matsui for peanuts, Cameron plays left, Swisher plays center, and Damon becomes the DH.

    Unless you add Manny to the mix, then you probably have a rotation in the outfield with Nady, Swisher, Damon, Cameron, and only slightly occassionally, Manny.
     
  14. GQMartin

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    Yeah I was going to say Damon DHs, Matsui is the odd man out.
     
  15. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    LAS VEGAS - CC and A.J.?

    The chances for the Yankees look good.
    The Yankees, after reaching a preliminary agreement with free-agent left-hander CC Sabathia, have emerged as the clear front-runner for free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett, according to major-league sources.

    Burnett's representatives were expected to contact interested clubs Thursday, giving them one last chance to beat the Yankees offer of five years and approximately $85 million.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8921818/Sources:-Yanks-out-front-to-land-Burnett
     
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    I LOVE aLIO'S DAYDREAM MODE!
    he absolutely looses himself for the Hot Stove adores players and hearts his yankees.
    this may be a Jets message board,but baseball and the bullshit is its meat and potatoes
     
  17. Cappy

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    Cameron would play CF. He's a natural CF, and above average at the position.

    Swisher would likely play RF, the corner position he's more comfortable with... he can play center adequately, but he's not great there.

    Nady/Damon/Matsui would be in LF, with two odd men out. One would DH, the other would be moved. I could see Nady being shopped, as well as Matsui. Probably won't get anything crazy for either one without them being part of a package.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I can actually see the Yankees offering Teixiera 225 and 10 years even if they don't care whether they get him or not. They can definitely afford it and Boston would prefer to only go 6-8 years as the articles are saying. For once they could force Boston to be bidding against themselves. At least they would be making Boras happy.
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    I do it all for you bro. Seriously though, I love baseball. It was my sport long before I ever watched a single football game. And yeah, I love my Yankees. More than even my Jets.

    Now where the hell is my Saga?!?!

    Okay, all fair enough. Honestly, I wouldn't want to shop Nady. I like him quite a bit. He's not great, but he's got the other two beat on the DOB stat.

    I really don't care how the outfield shakes out if we get Teixeira, truth be told. Matsui will never play defense regularly again, so otherwise, they're all at least servicable outfielders.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    "The Yankees want Cameron to be their new center fielder, and they're willing to give Melky Cabrera to Milwaukee in what would likely be a simple two-player trade. Simple, expect that the Yankees have asked the Brewers to pay part of Cameron's $10 million salary, and the Brewers have refused.

    According to a source familiar with the talks, the Brewers are dead against paying any of Cameron's money as part of a deal to get Cabrera. Milwaukee needs the money, because the Brewers want to chase a lower-level free-agent starter to replace Sabathia and Ben Sheets, who they will also lose to free agency."

    http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/8590096/12228785

    "The Brewers are asking for a second player in addition to Melky Cabrera. The Yankees want the Brewers to pay a portion of Cameron's $10 million salary."

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8926844/Thursday-MLB-winter-meetings-blog
     
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