We consistently play to the level of the opponent, they players follow a tone set by the other team which shows a lack of confidence in the coaching
I seriously wouldnt describe what I saw today as a loss. I wouldnt describe what I saw last week at home vs Denver as a loss. I wouldnt describe what I saw against Oakland back in October as a loss. We were out of these 3 games from the kickoff. The team was unprepared. There was no gameplan. The team was not motivated to win. They displayed no fire,.....no sense of urgency. I've seen plently of losses, but these 3 games were just awful......awful on every snap. I dont think Mangini is capable of bringing this team far into the playoffs this year or any year.
Biggest Issues with this team. The 3 man rush is atrocious, I've never seen a team run a scheme that never works as often as the Jets do. Any even borderline football fan knows if you give the QB enough time he will find someone. If I see the 3 man rush one more time this year, I'm going to Florham Park as smashing Mangini's head against his table. We don't run nearly enough, our running game is very successful yet we go away from it and put the game into the hands of the passing game with a QB that is playing terribly and WRs that can't get open. Go Figure
It seems they are overcompensating for the weakness in the coverage by putting the extra guys there, where they seem to dense to look at getting a fast rush to hurry the QB and disrupt the long passing routes
No when he wins he does a good coaching job and when he loses he sucks. It's like a man with two different personalities inside of him. Or an inexperienced coach who is just feeling his way through the season. He has his players now what is is excuse. This team thinks it can just show up and win. That's coaching if you ask me. And why oh why did we stop doing what we did earlier in the year with our pass rush. I also believe we're calling the same plays and everyone has caught up to us, so you must change the plays up. And please run the ball, there's nothing wrong with it. Poor coaching is what is happening here. Look at all our loses and you'll see, I don't know why.
Why did it feel as though we were in the prevent d for the entire game? 49er scrubs were making catches and running in wide open spaces all friggin day. Our d game plan seemed to be drop back into coverage, give up easy completions, then miss tackles. Repeat until sf td. We are the poorest tackers in the league by far...
It is the players as much as the coaches. The WRs can't get open. Farve can't deliver a deep pass (hmmm....seems like I heard that about another QB). And all of a sudden they can't stop the run. You want to blame the coaching....fine. But the players are not playing well at all.
Cakes thinks for himself. And I can't buy that we're 8-4 just because of our schedule when we've beaten an 8-5 Miami team on the road, an 8-5 Patriots team on the road, and an 12-1 Titans team on the road. If you were going to make the argument our schedule is weak, I would tell you that our losses are mostly to teams in the AFC and NFC West, which is what people consider the easy part of our schedule.
The West Coast is the tricky part of the schedule. The Jets historically dont do well out there. And they dont match up well vs denver. But they got to play KC, Cincy, St. Louis and Arizona all at home. That is a favorable schedule. But when i went through the schedule before the season began, i kept coming up with 9-7 and maybe 10-6, so they are on schedule for that. Then again, last year i figured 8-8 so go figure.
Their schedule has been so weak that I feel they should be in double digits in victories already. at Miami- new coaching staff in Miami, Jets have better talent: should have been a victory and was a victory vs New England- vs a QB making first start since a high school game in 1999: disgusting effort resulted in a loss for the Jets at San Diego- I thought asking the Jets to win in San Diego was too much and indeed it was vs Arizona- I expected a Jets win and they got it; they were facing a young team which hadn't yet learned to win vs decent teams on the road; I thought the entire 2nd half was garbage time and I was not alarmed by Arizona's 2nd half scoring fest vs Cincinnati- Ryan Fitzpatrick started-- as if the Bengals were not enough of a a mess anyway; should have been an easy win and pretty much it was; some Jets fans thought it was too close, but I thought it was a matter-of-fact win at Oakland- vs an interim head coach and dysfunctional team vs Kansas City- vs awful team at home; this win disgusted me at Buffalo- the Bills had started to fall apart in previous weeks, but I still thought it was a good win vs St. Louis- big whoop, the Jets beat the Rams at New England- quality win but poor coaching late in game at Tennessee- great win all around vs Denver- Broncos entered game with a myriad of injuries; awful defeat and the Jets had no excuses at San Francisco- third game vs an interim head coach; after the Broncos game, the Jets should have played with more desire today- I didn't see it games vs interim head coaches- 3 (Oakland, St. Louis, San Francisco) games vs 1st year head coaches- 3 (Miami, Oakland, San Francisco) games vs QBs who are not quality NFL starters and/or had fewer than a season's worth of NFL starts entering the game- *6 (New England, Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas City, New England, San Francisco) *would have been 7 but in the Buffalo game Trent Edwards made his 17th or 18th career start Let's face it. The Jets have had a nice schedule to work with this season. With the talent on this team and the favorable schedule, this team should be 10-3.
I figured the same thing, but then things broke well for the Jets and the schedule looked much more favorable as the season progressed. In the summer I thought the three toughest games were going to be vs New England, at New England, and at Seattle.
I agree with that as well. Oakland and today's game, if won would have put them at 10 wins. Looking at the schedule again tonite as I did, I dont know how anyone can say it is NOT favorable. Az, StL, KC and Cincy at home is CAKE(s). ;--) Going to Oakland and SF isnt- shouldnt be bad. Sure they won two nice road games at tenn and NE, but look what happened after that! The best spin I can put on this is that the Jets are streaky. After winning five in a row, they have now dropped two bad ones in a row. Gotta hope their streak turns around starting next game.
And Shotty can take a Canton bound QB and make him look like a novice. 20/31 and 137 yards? This is not the first game Brett's avg. per attempt is incredibly low. I tried to find his game by game passing stats over his career but have been unsuccessful thus far. I think if we look at his history, we'll find he has had his worst yards be attempt and yards per completion performances with the jets. These are numbers a novice would put up--this is ALL ON SHOTTY. Even Joe Montana in his prime would fail with this offensive scheme.
Gentlemen, the way our team played today, we are NOT a play-off team. On the offensive side of the ball, we were not able to perform any 8 to 10 minute, ball control drives. On the defensive side, we were not able to create any 3 and outs. This late in the season, Play-off teams do. We couldn't in the last 2 games thus, we are not a play-off team. Blame who you want but, if Mangini doesn't throw both his offensive and defensive coordinators under the bus, let his head roll too. :drunk:
I look a the in game adjustments to judge how the coaching staff does, seems this staff has very little ability in making adjustments during the game. Did they change anything today? Hell No!!! We almost lost the NE game when BB made adjustments in the 2nd qtr and got us into OT. We finally put a drive together in the 4th to put us up a TD, and even with that had to win a coin toss to win the game. Remember the 3rd quarter against the Cards...
