This is untrue. Teams are going to pay what they are going to pay. If there are offers for Sabathia for $150 million and he takes less to play somewhere he feels more comfortable, that doesn't mean he has a value of the lesser amount. Besides that, once he's off the market, Lowe and Burnett become the premier pitchers available, and as such will likely be the objects of bidding wars. One guy out of every 100 free agents who doesn't go for every last dollar isn't going to bring down the system.
All I read is what it says. He soured some scouts who saw him in the AFL. I don't know how else to interpret that.
Personally, I hope he goes to San Francisco and disappears into the sunset where he will never be heard from again.
If CC goes to SF, that'd beone hell of a staff. CC, Zito, Lince as your anchors, Lowry and Cain on the backend. Or one of the many STUDs in the SF system, trading Cain for Fielder, Hardy, pitching prospect. Christ that's video-game-esque.
Zito is awful if you've seen him pitch in the last few years, if Sabathia went to SF Zito would be at best the #5, more likely he'd be traded, moved to the bullpen or released, they'd probably roll it out, Lince, CC, Cain, Lowry, Sanchez. Though spending money on Sabathia doesn't make much sense barring a big trade for hitting. SF is better off offering deals to the PAt Burrells and Raul Ibanez's of the world.
No it doesn't your interpretation is incorrect, it means that scouts who have seen him THIS year in the AFL have been unimpressed, it seems clear enough from the article, but if you needed more confirmation this is the first time Hughes has pitched in the AFL, so it could not refer to any season but this one.
Here it is again... Now, can either of you explain to me how scouts would be soured on his performance in the AFL THIS YEAR by something that already happened before? If they are soured, it means they had a good opinion and it got worse. So how would their opinion change due to something they knew about before they formed it in the first place?
so your telling me that if sabathia takes 100 mill Burnett and Lowe will make 100 mil too? If i was a gm i would be like sabathia took this deal, you should take less. No Gm in thier right mind would pay equal or more money than cc made to get a burnett or lowe. It just wont happen
Directly quoting the article: But Hughes had a disappointing 2008 season AND soured some scouts who saw him in the Arizona Fall League. if they meant that his 2008 season soured the scouts they would have to use the word which there, or say souring, but the word and is used to connect two separate statements, what the writer is saying is that Hughes value is down because of 2 things, 1: his poor 2008 performance, and 2: the fact that scouts in the AFl have been unimpressed by him. as I pointed out before this is his only year in the AFL. Though that is irrelevant, the point is that the words written do not agree with your interpretation, the AFL comment and the 2008 comment are separated by and denoting that they are two separate things which affect a 3rd (ie hughes trade availability) and not 1 thing which has affected the 2nd edit- spelling
Burnett is looking probably looking at a 5-year/$80M deal from the Yanks. That's an overpay, but screw it. Peavy looks like he's not at all in the Yankees' plans. Swisher is probably our new 1B, leaving center open to Melky or Gardner. It looks like Cashman wants to go with Nady in right and Damon in left. I think this is a huge mistake. Even if they don't want to get involved in the Teixeira sweepstakes, why not bring back Abreu? They're going to miss that bat. I'm all for grabbing up elite pitching. I'd definitely like to get Sabathia and at least one of Lowe/Burnett. I'd also bring back Pettitte. I'm worried about the lineup though. Losing Giambi and Abreu is a lot of RBI gone. Damon and Matsui will both be older, and Posada has yet to prove his return. I haven't heard a word about Manny either. I know the past few years have taught us that hitting isn't everything, but in the AL East, it's a big something.
funny way that line is written but my two cents is that hughes both had a disappointing 08 AND has soured scouts in the AFL THIS year......but whatever. And if CC takes less money as the number one sought after pitcher this year then it ABSOLUTELY brings everyone else down. Its simple bargaining 101...it is ludicrous to believe otherwise. Absolutely ludicrous.
Alio - they're offering abritration to Abreu, so there is still a chance he comes back on a 1 year deal.
Sorry I disagree with you.... Burnett and Lowe are going to get what they are going to get. Sabathia walking away from a ridiculous offer by the Yankees to sign in a place he either A) has already pitchd in and feels a connection or B) goes to the West Coast which he has said all along he wanted to do has no major effect on what Lowe or Burnett are going to get. Honestly is CC the best pitcher in baseball? No maybe top 5 but he's not the best so he shouldn't be paid the highest. Now him walking away may drop a few dollars off Burnett but lets be honest AJ doesn't exactly have a clean bill of health and Lowe isn't a superstar but they're still going to make out ok. I just think it'd be funny to watch Sabathia give the big F U to the Yankees and go sign with the Giants or Brewers.
I don't know what you are reading..those are too separate thoughts connected by the word AND. They were turned off by him in the AFL. edit..of course NOW I see that cellar-door already said the exact same thing.
There is some speculation that the Yankees brought in Swisher so that everybody ASSUMES they are not going to be in the Teixiera race. It may be a ploy. Cashman made a comment the other day that if the Yankees get everybody they could possibly hope for they still wouldn't spend what they did last year when they spent over 500 million in total contract value. It isn't hard to see how that could mean Teixiera is still on their radar.
yeah, but a lot of teams could shy away from signing him due to the money and the draft picks, so he could end up accepting the yankees 1 year arbitration offer
I heard Francesca interview Swisher today. Locker room cancer? From what I heard he is an enthusiastic and all around good guy. WTF do i know though? I pissed on a pledge when he was passed out one time
I hope Abreu walks. He seems to be in decline... the past two seasons have seen fairly significant dips in both his OBP and SLG. If they can get two draft picks for him, I'd say that's potentially more valuable at this point in Abreu's career. (As an example, the Yanks were able to draft Joba in 2006 with a pick obtained from letting Tom Gordon sign with Philly.) I'd also rather pass on Burnett, especially if Lowe is available. Not because I think Lowe is better, necessarily, but if the Yanks can get Sabathia, their rotation should be solid enough that I'd rather look for an adequate "sure thing" as opposed to the high risk, high reward signing that is Burnett. Lowe is nothing if not durable, which would probably provide more value than Burnett in the long run. He'd also likely be cheaper. Sabathia > Wang > Joba > Lowe > Pettitte/Hughes/Kennedy/Aceves/etc.... that's fine with me.
