2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    He didn't "stink the AL last year." He pitched to a 3.83 ERA, and that was inflated due to four awful starts to kick off April.

    ERA:

    April: 7.88
    May: 2.44
    June: 1.89

    He was traded the first week in July.

    To put it in context, he gave up more runs in those first four games than he did for the rest of his starts in Cleveland combined.

    Even including April, his peripherals weren't that different between the AL and NL.
     
  2. SameOldJets2008

    SameOldJets2008 New Member

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    thank you, you also forger how he was the AL cy young last year or is it two years now?
     
  3. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    You make it sound like signing Sabathia has any effect on signing Teixiera.
     
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  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Sure it does, even the Yankees have limits. If they didn't they would have already made him an offer.
     
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  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Looks like somebody is really trying to throw Ramirez under the bus by planting this story now. I'm sure people in baseball are probably aware of it but this can certainly turn a fan base against him.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3704917
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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  7. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I'm still on the Hughes train. Couldn't care less about Kennedy though.

    I'd love
    CC
    Wang
    Peavy
    Burnett
    Lowe

    Hughes goes long relief if they don't trade him. Joba waits in the wings to see if all are signed/traded for. In the case they all are, he moves back to being the 8th inning guy.
     
  8. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Rotoworld reports the Players' Association is pushing Sabathia to take the highest bid.
     
  9. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Peavy+Sabathia would be AWESOME.
     
  10. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081114&content_id=3680233&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
    my own addition. If you are wondering why he only went 5 innings, its an AFL rule that pitchers can only go 5 innings
     
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  11. AnyGivenSunday

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    The problem with velocity has never really worried me. When a pitcher misses such significant time, they drop in velocity and it takes them a while to gain it back. We saw it this year with Lester.

    Now his command was what the real problem was, and it's good to see he's starting to get that back.
     
  12. IATA

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    Honestly, fuck the MLBPA. They're trying to take the "free" out of Free Agency.
     
  13. SameOldJets2008

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    dude if sabathia takes 100 million over 6 years to go to the brewers instead of the 140-150 million to go to the yankees, he screws all the other fa's.


    Burnett and Lowe who could have gotten 80 now get 50.

    Its a huge difference
     
  14. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    It's silly really, I agree. But read above, this is the exact reason why they are leaning on him.
     
  15. IATA

    IATA Trolls

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    OH NOES 50 MILLION DOLLARS TO THROW A BALL INSTEAD OF 80.

    Fuck them. Maybe they should just pitch better and get their own $100 million dollar contract.
     
  16. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    and then if they pitch better they get 100 million instead of 150......either way, thats what unions do. Of course theyre overpaid...all of them,...but theyre not going to start giving money back. Look at the big 3 auto makers...one gigantic reason they are all in the trouble thyre in is because of terrible labor deals theyve made...I just read somewhere that the union workers for the big 3 make like 70 bucks an hour where the NON-union workers of Toyota make 40.......and there you have it.
     
  17. IATA

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    I'm just bitter cause I make shit money.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And in response to that you have this so who knows.

    "– If the Yankees come after Peavy, the Padres will target several young pitchers and likely a young centerfielder. The Yankees thought enough of pitching prospect Phillip Hughes last offseason to not send him to the Twins as a key part of a deal that reportedly would have brought them Johan Santana. But Hughes had a disappointing 2008 season and soured some scouts who saw him in the Arizona Fall League."

    http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/nov/15/padres-s16padnotes/?padres
     
  19. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Personally, I think the Yankees ought to give him 24 hours and then pull the offer. We are in a recession. Screw baseball players.
     
  20. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    Um, that doesn't mean he was bad in the AFL this year. It means he was very good last year but then not so good in the 2008 MLB season, thus causing some scouts who had high opinions of him after last year's AFL season to not view him as highly.
     

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