Haha I saw it and I was like "thats me!!" I see what you mean, but I think this franchise is in it for some kind of long haul. This is just how you build a team...all they need to do is keep drafting well to replace guys as they get older. We do need a QB for that...kidnap Stafford..draft w/e.
I really like what Tannenbaum has done in the early rounds; he has brought in some excellent first round talent. The only guy I had questions about was Keller, he traded up a few slots to essentially draft a WR when he could have stayed put and still brought in a good pass-catching weapon. The one thing I want to see more out of him is more late round success stories like Stuckey. Bender obviously didn't pan out, and the jury is still out on this year's late round rookies. Back in '06 he had some moderate late success (Washington in the 4th round is AMAZING and Coleman in the 6th isn't a bad thing either) though the other picks didn't exactly pan out. Obviously I am bringing my Giant's bias here and comparing this draft to the Giants' 2007 draft; a draft I consider to be one of the best in recent memory. In terms of applying the term "genius" to Tannenbaum, I still want to see one draft where he brings in talent in every round and does so without trading up. Having said that, I still consider him a DAMN good GM and love what he has done with high end talent the last few years.
maybe "pre-Raiders"...but Russell doesn't look too impressive right now. Maybe he'll come into his own...or maybe the Raiders ruined him. Either way...he isn't worth what he's getting paid right now.
yeah, I'm with you on this. "Desperation" was one of the most frequently used words to describe the Jets offseason moves. Now Tanny's a supergenious. I'm just amazed a-holes can have jobs just saying whatever they want and then when they are wrong they can just change their stories 180 degrees. And they still get to keep their jobs. Nice work if you can get it!
but ... but... our accountant masquerading as a GM is wasting money on over-the-hill players who will land us in cap hell!
no one has really seen a Free Agency spree pay off the way the Jets have done it. most teams do this and fail, like the Skins, and the Pats can't get credit for the previous offseason because they were already good. They didn't go from 4 wins to 1st place.
Tannenbaum is a classic Madden GM. This year that worked out for us because Brett Favre suddenly became available very late in the process and there were no other serious competitors for him once the Jets upped the ante as far as a possible first round pick. In a year or two the odds are tremendous that we'll be looking back at this season (hopefully fondly) as the high point of the Tannenbaum-Mangini era. We're still looking at a team that has a lot of aging players likely to drop out on us in the near term. Hopefully they get over the top now before the decline sets in.
Yeah you are correct. If it is one thing Tannenbaum and Mangini have done, it is leaving this organization bereft of hi-level young talent. I mean I look over the roster of players like Revis, Harris, Washington,Keller, Ferguson, Mangold, Cotchery, Pace, Rhodes etc. and think they really have to step it up while these aging players are still in their prime because the organization will be in real trouble in the next year or two with these nearing 30 senior citizens.
I hate how freely the media tosses around the word genius in the sports world. These guys aren't discovering new scientific breakthroughs, they're running professional sports teams. Give me a break.
We are VERY different from the Skins. The Skins big FA shopping sprees came when the FA market wasn't landing guys like Kenyon Coleman and Chris Kelsay 5 year 20+ million dollar contracts. The Skins went out and got big names...Archuleta was a somewhat marquee name because of the Rams SB appearance...Thomas was a top young G...Randle El was like the Steelers 3rd WR when they signed him...Brandon Lloyd...lol. Our moves were shrewd in the sense that you know thought went into them. The Redskins simply blew their wad to blow their wad. These moves were like a million times more well thought out than the Skins. It also doesn't help that they were drafting like crap until recently.
All I have to say to this is that you actually went and spun Revis and Harris as bad picks. What exactly was Madden about his moves? The acquiring good players part...or...what? Oh, and the Pats "only worked out" cause they lucked into Brady. The Cowboys, 49ers, and Denver of the 90's "only worked out" because they lucked into HOF QBs. See how you can simplify and belittle anyones accomplishments so easy?
"Naturally, the moves came with a big price tag. Tannenbaum added about $185 million worth of contracts to the payroll, and the roster got older." Why do people even give a crap? Its Woody's money and he's a billionaire.
True. I think GB used the second round choice they got from us in the trade up deal to get big WR Jordy Nelson, he might end up being as good as Keller. And with the way they are using Keller a big WR with speed like Nelson would be the same thing.
Yeah idk how nobody else remembers this...clayton and all the tools on ESPN bashed it almost as bad as meteorology, you can consistently be wrong and never get fired. How many times is your local weatherman wrong.
Theres different kinds of geniuses...Mozart wasn't making scientific breakthroughs but can't deny the man was a genius. Jordan was a genius with a basketball in his hands. It's part of that...multiple intelligences theory. Sports media, NY media especially, is all about hyperbole anyway. But there have been genuine geniuses in the field of sports...Bill Walsh...Branch Rickey...Pete Rozelle...
Funny how the crypt keeper and other so called "experts" are jumping on the bandwagon. They were the same people that said that we were crazy for signing those same free agents and Jenkins to large contracts! Typical "expert" speak!
Jets currently over 30: Favre, Faneca, Woody, Coles, Jones, Richardson, Ellis, Barton, Bowens, Law (apparently the 2nd CB now). Additional Jets who will be over 30 as of opening day next season: Jenkins, Thomas, KColeman, Pouha (yeah that one made me double-take also). If that looks like half the offense and half the defense at or over the age where most players begin to decline that's only because it is. In 2010 Brandon Moore and Calvin Pace join them. This is not a young team it is a late-prime team which is going to be over the hill in a couple of years and having a handful of young stars isn't going to save us any more than it did the Raiders when this happened to them in the early part of the decade.
